Help with speed bump damage.

Help with speed bump damage.

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KevinCamaroSS

11,629 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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A GPS enabled speed recording dash cam would provide the necessary evidence.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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maxgas said:
I have photographic evidence, and a video from Lexus showing the damage. Also these humps are
not marked and no street signs warning that they are ahead. However we know they are there as we
have to drive over the damn unpleasent things weekly!
Check they are actually on adopted highway, otherwise you may be claiming against the wrong entity, it would be unusual (but not uncommon) for a Council to place traffic calming so badly. Not all public accessible roads are adopted, some are still under the control of private developers. The Local Authority should have a plan showing the extent of all adopted highway.

Most Local Authorities produce and publish their own 'Highway Design Guide' which will include their own guidance on how to construct traffic Calming humps, these are usually available to download off their websites for free, that would be a good point of reference to quote back to them regarding and errors with the one you claim have damaged the car.

If their own guide says they should be 100mm high max, should have arrow markings, and should be signed, then you have a much more robust claim, and quoting their own guide doesn't give them much wriggle-room.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
A GPS enabled speed recording dash cam would provide the necessary evidence.
CSI Pistonheads.....cool

C Lee Farquar

4,067 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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fat80b said:
Similar happened to me - coil spring (BMW E46) gave way coming out of a car park at less than 10 mph, no speed bumps involved.

Maybe it's actually car park exits that damage springs.....
Sounds like a FACT wink

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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MitchT said:
I once had a coil spring go with an almighty bang.
I was in the back of a neighbour's 10yo Mondildo a little while back, reversing out of their parking space - less than 2ft from starting to move. Barely audible sproing and a lurch three inches behind my buttocks. Yep, broken spring. The fourth they'd had on the car in less than a year from buying it.

But going back to the OP... I can see how a spring would have chosen that moment to let go, even without it being the bump directly causing it. But both dampers...? No, need that explaining...

matjk

1,102 posts

140 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Had one go with the car on the drive, almighty bang, i had just cleaned the car, so maybe i could have gone after autoglym or Anglia water.
I would think the angle of attack on the speed bump is far more important than the height, hit a railway sleeper head on and its game over.
Springs where probably on the way out and this was the last straw, or someone hit it a lot quicker than they are letting on.
One question, are you supposed to be able to cruise over them at the listed speed limit? Because that would be suicide round my way, cars speed up and slow down between them, maybe 25 max in between & 5 going over i would say is the average unless your brave or dont care about the motor

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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matjk said:
One question, are you supposed to be able to cruise over them at the listed speed limit?
No.

BrettMRC

4,084 posts

160 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Rick101 said:
From what I can see they can be up to 185cm high.
Now that ladies and gentlemen is a speedbump! hehe

amancalledrob

1,248 posts

134 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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BrettMRC said:
Now that ladies and gentlemen is a speedbump! hehe
That'd come up to my chin!

maxgas

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176 posts

167 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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According to the highways (speed hump) regulations 1999 :-

Speed humps must be at right angles to the carriageway, be at least 900mm long, be less than 100 mm high and more than 25mm high and not have a vertical face exceeding 6 mm. Note that most speed humps in the UK are now constructed at 75 mm height due to grounding on higher ones, and there are other guidelines on their use and such measures as leading and trailing slopes which are given later, but these do not necessarily have the force of law. Road humps may be constructed under Zebra, Pelican and Puffin crossings, if centrally located under them. However they cannot be placed near bridge supports, or near tunnels or culverts beneath the road.

Not sure where you saw that they can be 185 cm.? Sounds like a ski jump!

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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maxgas said:
The bang sound came from the spring actually snapping.
No it didn't

I've had many springs break over the years on various cars and i've not heard any of them go bang, they normally crack over time and let go at any time, just driving along the road will lead to a cracked spring breaking. The bang would have been the wheel/tyre hitting the side of the speedhump

maxgas

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176 posts

167 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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No it didn't


Yes it did, just because you did not hear a noise does not mean that my spring will not make a noise
especially if it is under compression and then just snaps, it was not the tires.

rainmakerraw

1,222 posts

126 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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maxgas said:
According to the highways (speed hump) regulations 1999 :-

Speed humps must be at right angles to the carriageway, be at least 900mm long, be less than 100 mm high and more than 25mm high and not have a vertical face exceeding 6 mm. Note that most speed humps in the UK are now constructed at 75 mm height due to grounding on higher ones, and there are other guidelines on their use and such measures as leading and trailing slopes which are given later, but these do not necessarily have the force of law. Road humps may be constructed under Zebra, Pelican and Puffin crossings, if centrally located under them. However they cannot be placed near bridge supports, or near tunnels or culverts beneath the road.

Not sure where you saw that they can be 185 cm.? Sounds like a ski jump!
That's all true, OP, but be prepared for a fight. The road leading to my mum's house has half a dozen humps like this, all of varying shapes and heights. Most of my cars over the years have scraped badly over them, regardless of speed, and I damaged an exhaust more than once. In the end I got sick of it and made enquiries with the council as to their height, and voiced my concerns about them damaging vehicles. All you hear from my mum's house is bang, scrape, bang... all day long. I received a reply from one of their highways engineers (note: a proper engineer) saying the bumps were all hand formed, so they had no idea how tall they were. The only thing they definitely knew, because they hadn't measured them and they were made by hand, was that they were all definitely below the legal height requirements and so it wasn't their problem that all the local cars were being gouged (some even grounded). Um... OK?

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Can I suggest taking some photographs of the measurements being taken rather than just writing some numbers down.

Fastpedeller

3,872 posts

146 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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maxgas said:
According to the highways (speed hump) regulations 1999 :-

Speed humps must be at right angles to the carriageway, be at least 900mm long, be less than 100 mm high and more than 25mm high and not have a vertical face exceeding 6 mm. Note that most speed humps in the UK are now constructed at 75 mm height due to grounding on higher ones, and there are other guidelines on their use and such measures as leading and trailing slopes which are given later, but these do not necessarily have the force of law. Road humps may be constructed under Zebra, Pelican and Puffin crossings, if centrally located under them. However they cannot be placed near bridge supports, or near tunnels or culverts beneath the road.

Not sure where you saw that they can be 185 cm.? Sounds like a ski jump!
Do they mean speedhumps of those platform things? What does 900mm long refer to? If it's a platform then I can understand it, but if referring to a hump then it should be 900mm wide surely? Horrible things which only seem to slow down those of us who drive slowly anyway - the fast ones just go blindingly fast.

Danattheopticians

375 posts

102 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
matjk said:
One question, are you supposed to be able to cruise over them at the listed speed limit?
No.
Good point matjk, and TooMany, Why not? Only reason I ask is, 1. Are they put in place to calm drivers down to the speed limit or below it? Actually in most cases, well below it! 2.If they are not designed to only keep drivers at the posted limit but well below it, then why isn't the posted limit just set lower? That's all.

maxgas

Original Poster:

176 posts

167 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Can I suggest taking some photographs of the measurements being taken rather than just writing some numbers down.


Already done that and they are on there way together with my repair bill to the council.

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Fastpedeller said:
maxgas said:
According to the highways (speed hump) regulations 1999 :-

Speed humps must be at right angles to the carriageway, be at least 900mm long, be less than 100 mm high and more than 25mm high and not have a vertical face exceeding 6 mm. Note that most speed humps in the UK are now constructed at 75 mm height due to grounding on higher ones, and there are other guidelines on their use and such measures as leading and trailing slopes which are given later, but these do not necessarily have the force of law. Road humps may be constructed under Zebra, Pelican and Puffin crossings, if centrally located under them. However they cannot be placed near bridge supports, or near tunnels or culverts beneath the road.

Not sure where you saw that they can be 185 cm.? Sounds like a ski jump!
Do they mean speedhumps of those platform things? What does 900mm long refer to? If it's a platform then I can understand it, but if referring to a hump then it should be 900mm wide surely? Horrible things which only seem to slow down those of us who drive slowly anyway - the fast ones just go blindingly fast.
Horrible indeed but sadly necessary. Everyone must suffer because of a few moronic drivers.