unfit fleet vans
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Would these vans be red?
Re the van checks , all your checking is tyre tread , the lights work and the fluids are topped up , so other than tyres the fluids and bulbs should be sorted by you.
If so fill in a pmt form and until it's been checked over and passed safe it shouldn't be used , we learnt that at our audit 2 years ago.
Stuff like no spare tyre if you refuse to take the van out , there's nothing managers can do to make you take it despite them trying to .
Re vosa, if you are stopped and the vans got faults it's you that gets fined not the company hence why you need to refuse to take it out.
Re the van checks , all your checking is tyre tread , the lights work and the fluids are topped up , so other than tyres the fluids and bulbs should be sorted by you.
If so fill in a pmt form and until it's been checked over and passed safe it shouldn't be used , we learnt that at our audit 2 years ago.
Stuff like no spare tyre if you refuse to take the van out , there's nothing managers can do to make you take it despite them trying to .
Re vosa, if you are stopped and the vans got faults it's you that gets fined not the company hence why you need to refuse to take it out.
Edited by egor110 on Thursday 23 February 16:00
Edited by egor110 on Thursday 23 February 16:05
havoc said:
Good advice by Vaud.
Also worth speaking to Union if there is one / if you belong.
As for the colleagues who don't care...call VOSA, shop 'em - if they're happy to take a potentially-dangerous van out then do they deserve your sympathy?
Depends why the o/p feels the vans are unfit.Also worth speaking to Union if there is one / if you belong.
As for the colleagues who don't care...call VOSA, shop 'em - if they're happy to take a potentially-dangerous van out then do they deserve your sympathy?
They should be checked before leaving the depot for tyre tread / pressure, do the lights work and is there oil , coolant , screen wash and are the numberplates and lights are clean.
Anything else might not be picked up on the daily checks , but say the clutch was high you could stick a fault report in but the other driver might feel there was nothing wrong with it .
egor110 said:
Would these vans be red?
Re the van checks , all your checking is tyre tread , the lights work and the fluids are topped up , so other than tyres the fluids and bulbs should be sorted by you.
If so fill in a pmt form and until it's been checked over and passed safe it shouldn't be used , we learnt that at our audit 2 years ago.
Stuff like no spare tyre if you refuse to take the van out , there's nothing managers can do to make you take it despite them trying to .
Re vosa, if you are stopped and the vans got faults it's you that gets fined not the company hence why you need to refuse to take it out.
There's no legal requirement to carry a spare wheel, my tyre sealant equipped from new vehicle says so.Re the van checks , all your checking is tyre tread , the lights work and the fluids are topped up , so other than tyres the fluids and bulbs should be sorted by you.
If so fill in a pmt form and until it's been checked over and passed safe it shouldn't be used , we learnt that at our audit 2 years ago.
Stuff like no spare tyre if you refuse to take the van out , there's nothing managers can do to make you take it despite them trying to .
Re vosa, if you are stopped and the vans got faults it's you that gets fined not the company hence why you need to refuse to take it out.
Edited by egor110 on Thursday 23 February 16:00
Edited by egor110 on Thursday 23 February 16:05
Royal Mail won't let you change your own wheel anyway, you're supposed to call out the breakdown services in the log book. They carry spares for you.
Any genuine faults, absolutely fine to refuse to drive until sorted, no point in getting yourself in the doodoo.
cossy400 said:
Does depend a lot on whats wrong with them IMO.
and if its a big fleet surely they are replaced a lot too.
Are they Red lol
I'm currently using a 57 plate van with 80k on the clock.and if its a big fleet surely they are replaced a lot too.
Are they Red lol
The old new van every 3 years is long gone , i'll get a new one when this ones no longer economically worth repairing.
However on the flip side it's reliable and has none of this dpf that keep's f
king up on the new vans.vladcjelli said:
egor110 said:
Would these vans be red?
Re the van checks , all your checking is tyre tread , the lights work and the fluids are topped up , so other than tyres the fluids and bulbs should be sorted by you.
If so fill in a pmt form and until it's been checked over and passed safe it shouldn't be used , we learnt that at our audit 2 years ago.
Stuff like no spare tyre if you refuse to take the van out , there's nothing managers can do to make you take it despite them trying to .
Re vosa, if you are stopped and the vans got faults it's you that gets fined not the company hence why you need to refuse to take it out.
There's no legal requirement to carry a spare wheel, my tyre sealant equipped from new vehicle says so.Re the van checks , all your checking is tyre tread , the lights work and the fluids are topped up , so other than tyres the fluids and bulbs should be sorted by you.
If so fill in a pmt form and until it's been checked over and passed safe it shouldn't be used , we learnt that at our audit 2 years ago.
Stuff like no spare tyre if you refuse to take the van out , there's nothing managers can do to make you take it despite them trying to .
Re vosa, if you are stopped and the vans got faults it's you that gets fined not the company hence why you need to refuse to take it out.
Edited by egor110 on Thursday 23 February 16:00
Edited by egor110 on Thursday 23 February 16:05
Royal Mail won't let you change your own wheel anyway, you're supposed to call out the breakdown services in the log book. They carry spares for you.
Any genuine faults, absolutely fine to refuse to drive until sorted, no point in getting yourself in the doodoo.
Re the breakdown services it's a total lottery who turns up , if the royal mail guys local he does otherwise it's rac or a local tyre fitting company.
vikingaero said:
Sounds like a nasty company. I would report them to the whole shebang:
(1) Inform their Insurers
(2) HSE
(3) VOSA
(4) Traffic Commissioners - highly likely to have HGVs and need an operators licence
(5) Police
They insure there own fleet if it is the red van company.(1) Inform their Insurers
(2) HSE
(3) VOSA
(4) Traffic Commissioners - highly likely to have HGVs and need an operators licence
(5) Police
The o/p hasn't actually said what's wrong with the vans , what they won't repair.
sorry for the delayed reply, the vans are not red are in actual fact blue. I'm a time served mechanic and was for nearly 10 years before joining this company so I'd like to think I'm fairly confident I can defect a van
having had a fight an an issue last night with the van I was given, I eventually put it off the road, bulbs out (no bulbs to replace bulbs fitted (not legally allowed by the company to fit the bulbs as as far as they're concerned I've not been trained to do so)), brake warning light on, reverse guide lights missing, a step to help you reach the top of the racking was missing which is a health and safety fault. There were a few other reasons too but it doesn't really matter what they were you get the point
having had a fight an an issue last night with the van I was given, I eventually put it off the road, bulbs out (no bulbs to replace bulbs fitted (not legally allowed by the company to fit the bulbs as as far as they're concerned I've not been trained to do so)), brake warning light on, reverse guide lights missing, a step to help you reach the top of the racking was missing which is a health and safety fault. There were a few other reasons too but it doesn't really matter what they were you get the point
The bit about not being allowed to change bulbs , we were told it's down to somehow somebody put a bulb in wrong and it was short circuiting.
He was coming down a dual carriageway the headflights flashed a car pulled out of a junction and there was a serious crash , so from now on we're not allowed to change bulbs.
He was coming down a dual carriageway the headflights flashed a car pulled out of a junction and there was a serious crash , so from now on we're not allowed to change bulbs.
egor110 said:
The bit about not being allowed to change bulbs , we were told it's down to somehow somebody put a bulb in wrong and it was short circuiting.
He was coming down a dual carriageway the headflights flashed a car pulled out of a junction and there was a serious crash , so from now on we're not allowed to change bulbs.
oh I understand that the company doesn't want the responsibility if I make mess of it! That's why regardless of my experience I refuse to do it. With that said, when its a £150 call out charge, there SHOULD be bulbs to replace them if they are requiring replacing.He was coming down a dual carriageway the headflights flashed a car pulled out of a junction and there was a serious crash , so from now on we're not allowed to change bulbs.
Just a quick update, put the first van off the road, spoke to my manager and have got him agree to allow me to check all the vans and defect any that have issues and discipline anyone that hasn't defected it without a bloody good reason.
slowly but surely getting a manager to work on this, if this doesn't happen VOSA will be phoned come first chance.
I can't stress enough that I don't think this is a company wide thing, I fear this is more just at this one location..
slowly but surely getting a manager to work on this, if this doesn't happen VOSA will be phoned come first chance.
I can't stress enough that I don't think this is a company wide thing, I fear this is more just at this one location..
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