unfit fleet vans

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Vaud

50,386 posts

155 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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scott_evo said:
Just a quick update, put the first van off the road, spoke to my manager and have got him agree to allow me to check all the vans and defect any that have issues and discipline anyone that hasn't defected it without a bloody good reason.

slowly but surely getting a manager to work on this, if this doesn't happen VOSA will be phoned come first chance.

I can't stress enough that I don't think this is a company wide thing, I fear this is more just at this one location..
Then see my posts earlier and recommendation.

egor110

16,848 posts

203 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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scott_evo said:
egor110 said:
The bit about not being allowed to change bulbs , we were told it's down to somehow somebody put a bulb in wrong and it was short circuiting.

He was coming down a dual carriageway the headflights flashed a car pulled out of a junction and there was a serious crash , so from now on we're not allowed to change bulbs.
oh I understand that the company doesn't want the responsibility if I make mess of it! That's why regardless of my experience I refuse to do it. With that said, when its a £150 call out charge, there SHOULD be bulbs to replace them if they are requiring replacing.
This is just what we were told from our last auditor , could be complete crap.

You'd think a fleet our size they'd just show every driver how to change the bulbs and let us to it ourselves.

Tyre's we were told somebody jacked the van in the wrong place it fell on them injured them and they claimed so rather than put a giant sticker over the jacking point we can't do it anymore so deliveries are effected because we're sat for a hour plus waiting for someone to come and change a tyre.

frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Your line manager is responsible for making sure you adhere to company h & s. If you hit a stumbling block remind them that if one of his staff have an accident he can be held criminally liable personally not simply the company.

egor110

16,848 posts

203 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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scott_evo said:
Just a quick update, put the first van off the road, spoke to my manager and have got him agree to allow me to check all the vans and defect any that have issues and discipline anyone that hasn't defected it without a bloody good reason.

slowly but surely getting a manager to work on this, if this doesn't happen VOSA will be phoned come first chance.

I can't stress enough that I don't think this is a company wide thing, I fear this is more just at this one location..
Who's going to be bking the staff, bear in mind the same manager that could be doing the bking is probably the same manager putting pressure on staff to take it the vans to complete the deliveries.

It would be better for you if you told the staff what faults you'd found and give them the chance to pmt them rather than go in guns blazing because you used to be a mechanic .

daydotz

1,741 posts

161 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Sounds like poor organisation & un realistic targets

Our drivers are trusted to change bulbs & do other simple repair tasks granted we not allowed to top up oil due to issues with over filling

ATS are always quick to respond for punctures


Did you spot the PM wink


grumpy52

5,571 posts

166 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I worked for a company many years ago that had just re-structured its transport dept after having its O licence withdrawn. 600 vehicles off the road in the stroke of a pen .

ging84

8,880 posts

146 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I am not surprised they don't let you change bulbs or tyres yourself these days, particularly tyres.

In most organisations if you said you were off to perform a task which involved jacking up the corner of a 2.5 ton machine, you have not had any training, but your dad showed you how to do it when you were 17 on a machine half the size, and you have done it a couple more times since, there would be a emergency health a safety committee meeting called before you'd even finished your sentence. If you then mentioned you'd planed to be doing it alone, unsupervised and the machine is on not necessarily perfectly flat ground, possibly in the dark, at the side of a busy road, they would wrap you up in health and safety tape, lock you in a padded room and never let you out.


egor110

16,848 posts

203 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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i'm waiting until refueling is too dangerous too wink

lenard

19 posts

117 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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would these vans be delivering car parts?

codenamecueball

529 posts

89 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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lenard said:
would these vans be delivering car parts?
I think groceries - the photo OP posted is actually a giveaway of the company as it's in their corporate font...

ging84

8,880 posts

146 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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doesn't everyone's car part supplier give them the option of chilled or frozen ?

gazza285

9,805 posts

208 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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ging84 said:
I am not surprised they don't let you change bulbs or tyres yourself these days, particularly tyres.

In most organisations if you said you were off to perform a task which involved jacking up the corner of a 2.5 ton machine, you have not had any training, but your dad showed you how to do it when you were 17 on a machine half the size, and you have done it a couple more times since, there would be a emergency health a safety committee meeting called before you'd even finished your sentence. If you then mentioned you'd planed to be doing it alone, unsupervised and the machine is on not necessarily perfectly flat ground, possibly in the dark, at the side of a busy road, they would wrap you up in health and safety tape, lock you in a padded room and never let you out.
Not surprised at all either, all part of the duty of care and accountability.


iDave

100 posts

186 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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I worked briefly for this company and it was more the opposite for the depot I was at, they were very hot on the van checks being carried out properly.
Minor faults could be fixed by certain trained team leaders (after doing a training course and getting the certificate rolleyes), I think that was only bulbs and wiper blades, any other faults then the van was taken out of service no dramas.
This was a large depot (maybe largest for Southeast) and they only had < 3 year old Sprinters on the fleet and refused to have Ivecos.
I can imagine the smaller depots or the ones working out of shops have a more relaxed approach to the maintenance, quite bad really as they get their vans from the large depots after 2-3 years hard use, just when parts are going to need replacing/repairs!

It seems like you're starting to get somewhere now though so good luck! smokin