Insuring twins for primary use on a single car?

Insuring twins for primary use on a single car?

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tankplanker

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2,479 posts

279 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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My kids are 17 next year and once they have passed their test they'll be sharing a car to drive to 6th form. They will be the primary users of the car, mileage roughly equal between them. While we will use the car it'll be very occasionally (most likely to fill it up once a week) they will be driving the majority of the miles. However I'm not expecting either of the twins to drive many more if at all than the other in the car.

Normally I'd put whoever does the most miles down in a car as the primary driver for the insurance, but there is no clear winner in this case, if I put one of them down then sods law says the other will do a couple of hundred miles more than the other. What is the correct thing to do with the car insurance?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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tankplanker said:
My kids are 17 next year and once they have passed their test they'll be sharing a car to drive to 6th form. They will be the primary users of the car, mileage roughly equal between them. While we will use the car it'll be very occasionally (most likely to fill it up once a week) they will be driving the majority of the miles. However I'm not expecting either of the twins to drive many more if at all than the other in the car.

Normally I'd put whoever does the most miles down in a car as the primary driver for the insurance, but there is no clear winner in this case, if I put one of them down then sods law says the other will do a couple of hundred miles more than the other. What is the correct thing to do with the car insurance?
Pick one at random, toss a coin, however they usually decide between them. Next year, put it in the other's name. That way, they'll build NCB equally albeit at half the speed they would otherwise...

davamer23

1,127 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Are they identical?


brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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davamer23 said:
Are they identical?
You're not thinking the same as me are you? wink

tankplanker

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2,479 posts

279 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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davamer23 said:
Are they identical?
Nah, fraternal twins and different sexes, so that is out.

Vaud

50,426 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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tankplanker said:
My kids are 17 next year and once they have passed their test they'll be sharing a car to drive to 6th form. They will be the primary users of the car, mileage roughly equal between them. While we will use the car it'll be very occasionally (most likely to fill it up once a week) they will be driving the majority of the miles. However I'm not expecting either of the twins to drive many more if at all than the other in the car.

Normally I'd put whoever does the most miles down in a car as the primary driver for the insurance, but there is no clear winner in this case, if I put one of them down then sods law says the other will do a couple of hundred miles more than the other. What is the correct thing to do with the car insurance?
Tell the insurer everything and let them make the decision?

KevinCamaroSS

11,623 posts

280 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Run two sets of quotes and choose whichever one returns the cheapest quote. Of course, there should not be a difference but who knows.

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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They're not even 17 until 2018.

tankplanker

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2,479 posts

279 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Vaud said:
Tell the insurer everything and let them make the decision?
That is my last resort, but I'd rather know before I spoke to the insurer as being informed usually works out better

herewego said:
They're not even 17 until 2018.
It has been bugging me and costs nothing to ask.


KevinCamaroSS said:
Run two sets of quotes and choose whichever one returns the cheapest quote. Of course, there should not be a difference but who knows.
This is what I'll probably end up doing if there isn't a clear cut answer. I would guess the girl would come out cheaper.

Vaud

50,426 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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tankplanker said:
his is what I'll probably end up doing if there isn't a clear cut answer. I would guess the girl would come out cheaper.
On identical data they shouldn't.

"It used to be easy to find cheap car insurance for women. But since a recent EU ruling, insurance companies are no longer able to automatically reward careful female drivers with cheaper premiums based on their gender. "

Jujuuk68

363 posts

157 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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There are some insurers who provide for a named driver discount.

I think the way it works is that as long as the named driver stays with the insurer, their own separate ncd is transferable to a policy in their own name. Sooner or later they'll both want their own cars. If they both build some ncd this it won't be so painful for them.




Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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tankplanker said:
Vaud said:
Tell the insurer everything and let them make the decision?
That is my last resort, but I'd rather know before I spoke to the insurer as being informed usually works out better

herewego said:
They're not even 17 until 2018.
It has been bugging me and costs nothing to ask.


KevinCamaroSS said:
Run two sets of quotes and choose whichever one returns the cheapest quote. Of course, there should not be a difference but who knows.
This is what I'll probably end up doing if there isn't a clear cut answer. I would guess the girl would come out cheaper.
The girl shouldn't come out cheaper, it's illegal to price differently based on sex and other than that everything else is identical.

Fastpedeller

3,872 posts

146 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Well it's obvious..... the oldest will be the lower price laugh
ETA should I have said eldest?

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Fastpedeller said:
Well it's obvious..... the oldest will be the lower price laugh
ETA should I have said eldest?
...er

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Insure the vehicle in the name of the person who owns the car

Main driver one of the twins
Add driver 1 the other one
Then the parents


Will make f'all difference if one twin does more miles than the other.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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V8 Fettler said:
Fastpedeller said:
Well it's obvious..... the oldest will be the lower price laugh
ETA should I have said eldest?
...er
Unless the OP's wife has some sort of double barrel, simultaneous, firing mechanism installed one would have to have arrived first...

PistonBroker

2,414 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Get them each the same car, you've got your own one-make junior race series! ;-p

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Rude-boy said:
Unless the OP's wife has some sort of double barrel, simultaneous, firing mechanism installed one would have to have arrived first...
And what a pain it is for us all having to put down the precise time of our birth on our annual search for car insurance rolleyes

sebhaque

6,404 posts

181 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Rude-boy said:
V8 Fettler said:
Fastpedeller said:
Well it's obvious..... the oldest will be the lower price laugh
ETA should I have said eldest?
...er
Unless the OP's wife has some sort of double barrel, simultaneous, firing mechanism installed one would have to have arrived first...
I'm sure if you jokingly asked the twins, the elder one would quip the moments before his/her twin were born were the best few minutes of their life. What effect this has on the insurance is pretty minimal - out of curiosity, since twins are still brothers/sisters to each other, could they technically claim they were simply brother and sister rather than twins?

My question goes wider than insurance as it won't take a genius to work out two siblings born on the same date -might- be twins. Just thinking generically - if they're fraternal and they look noticeably different (to simplify, the male shaves his head but grows a beard and the female dyes her hair and wears pigtails), there's nothing to stop people thinking one is older than the other. Is there actually anything wrong with saying "yes, we're brother and sister" rather than saying "we're actually twins"?

I ask out of curiosity as I knew two non-identical twins from my high school days. John has a respectable job, is happily married with a toddler and one on the way. The last I heard of Jane is that she was serving time for armed robbery. Names obviously changed. I suspect the term "twin" has been retired for "sibling" given the disparity in life quality.

QuickQuack

2,175 posts

101 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Rude-boy said:
V8 Fettler said:
Fastpedeller said:
Well it's obvious..... the oldest will be the lower price laugh
ETA should I have said eldest?
...er
Unless the OP's wife has some sort of double barrel, simultaneous, firing mechanism installed one would have to have arrived first...
Missed the point of "...er" I think. Grammatically speaking, in a comparison between two entities, the comparative rather than the superlative form of the adjective should be used hence the response to "should I have said eldest?" is that it should've been either elder or older, not eldest or oldest.