Problem with local council

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elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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dudleybloke said:
Drop the container outside the mayor's house.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
I'm sure the mayor would be oissed off but the Parish Clerk would be grinning!

tony wright

1,004 posts

250 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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As a way of causing grief to those who placed it there do you have a lot of contacts in your area? If so, you could get different individuals to ring every, or every other day, saying there are small children on top of the container and they are very worried someone's going to get hurt by falling off. I'm pretty sure someone would have to respond, hopefully they would get fed up after a couple of weeks and may look to relocate it.

A Royal Navy PTI was killed by a container in the Falklands. He was having a slash against the side of one and along with the wind and a Chanook helicopter landing it blew over on top of himeek

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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tony wright said:
As a way of causing grief to those who placed it there do you have a lot of contacts in your area? If so, you could get different individuals to ring every, or every other day, saying there are small children on top of the container and they are very worried someone's going to get hurt by falling off. I'm pretty sure someone would have to respond, hopefully they would get fed up after a couple of weeks and may look to relocate it.

A Royal Navy PTI was killed by a container in the Falklands. He was having a slash against the side of one and along with the wind and a Chanook helicopter landing it blew over on top of himeek
Because Chinooks are a common sight in British suburbia.

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I'd imagine that that area is defined as 'Public open space' as defined in the Open Spaces Act 1906 and as such isn't covered by normal permitted development rules and should require change of use planning permission to erect any 'buildings' or remove any part of the open space from free public access. I think your Parish Council may have got this wrong and it might be worth while pursuing this further.

mickthemechanic

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326 posts

106 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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brrapp said:
I'd imagine that that area is defined as 'Public open space' as defined in the Open Spaces Act 1906 and as such isn't covered by normal permitted development rules and should require change of use planning permission to erect any 'buildings' or remove any part of the open space from free public access. I think your Parish Council may have got this wrong and it might be worth while pursuing this further.
I have had the county council planning office involved unfotunately its within the rules according to them.

g7orge

292 posts

94 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I'm with you OP - that would really annoy me - it seems so out of place - I doubt very much that the councillor would want it outside his house...

iwantagta

1,323 posts

145 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Buy cheapest sttest looking van with a years MOT you can. Tax it.
Badly spray paint in luminous pink paint & on the side "This van stays here until the container is moved from my house".
Park on street in most irritating place you can for the council. (Find council leader park outside his house)

Worst case you get press attention to highlight the council being dicks.

Cost you a couple of K though.

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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That looks frikkin' awful, sympathies OP. Mind you, let's hope they've nailed it down properly.


From one of the "storm" threads:


tony wright

1,004 posts

250 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Trabi601 said:
Because Chinooks are a common sight in British suburbia.
No, really!!

Zombie

1,587 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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REALIST123 said:

What a fking mess. Only a st for brains council employee could think that's a good idea. I have every sympathy with you and I'd be chasing a reduction in CT and compensation for devaluing your property.
OP stated it was the Parish (or Town) Council that placed it there. Cretin.

InitialDave

11,901 posts

119 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Zombie said:
OP stated it was the Parish (or Town) Council that placed it there. Cretin.
But parish council funding is part of your council tax. Whether you agree with him or not, there is consistency between his proposal and who is to blame.

Zombie

1,587 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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InitialDave said:
But parish council funding is part of your council tax. Whether you agree with him or not, there is consistency between his proposal and who is to blame.
It's not a case of agreeing or disagreeing, he is quite simply wrong.

Where the money comes from is totally irrelevant. Parish Councils (like town and community) are made up of elected individuals and, possibly, co-opted members from the local community, there is no direct connection with the Local Authority and they act completely independently.

Zombie

1,587 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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mickthemechanic said:
Hi

Yes but I am not sure about posting pics of where I live on the internet.
People would only be able to find out where you live if you take the pic with a gps enabled camera, like an iPhone 4S and you don't strip the metadata before posting the pic.

I think you've said that you've contacted the LPA and they've stated that it doesn't require planning consent. I'm not a planner but I would raise the following;

I think that the formation of a (permeable or semi permeable) hard standing would only fall under PD rights if it was in connection with an existing development or use.

Under recent planning legislation changes, new areas of impermeable hard standings now require planning consent. The container is sited on concrete which should have required consent on this basis and assuming it was put there for the container by the Parish Council recently.


Edited by Zombie on Sunday 26th February 01:51

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Bloke across the road hired one of those for temporary storage behind his fence that ran alongside the footpath.

About a foot of it was visible above the fence.

A resident complained and Sheffield City Council planning department made him get rid of it.

So, why can the OP's council deem that one to be legal?

I'm surprised other nearby residents haven't complained, it looks bloody awful.

Zombie

1,587 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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mybrainhurts said:
Bloke across the road hired one of those for temporary storage behind his fence that ran alongside the footpath.

About a foot of it was visible above the fence.

A resident complained and Sheffield City Council planning department made him get rid of it.

So, why can the OP's council deem that one to be legal?

I'm surprised other nearby residents haven't complained, it looks bloody awful.
It's never that simple.

55palfers

5,910 posts

164 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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It could be a caravan....

Markbarry1977

4,065 posts

103 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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I'd find a couple of local scrotes in a nearby pub and tell them about the £1000s of pounds worth of equipment just left there in a flimsy container. Maybe express your surprise that nobody has emptied it of it's contents yet.

I'm sure even if they don't have the balls to do it themselves they will know someone who does.

Zombie

1,587 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Markbarry1977 said:
I'd find a couple of local scrotes in a nearby pub and tell them about the £1000s of pounds worth of equipment just left there in a flimsy container. Maybe express your surprise that nobody has emptied it of it's contents yet.

I'm sure even if they don't have the balls to do it themselves they will know someone who does.
Taking this thought to it's logical conclusion... The scrotes will be highly unlikely to take the container, only the contents, which will be covered by insurance. The OP's Council tax will go up because the cost of the Parish council's asset insurance has gone up. Container will still be there.

OP's Post code will be blighted as a crime hotspot.

OP's house insurance will go up. Op's Car insurance will go up.

Congrats, you've funded a drug adicts habit and achieved nothing else.

Well done.


soad

32,895 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Markbarry1977 said:
I'd find a couple of local scrotes in a nearby pub and tell them about the £1000s of pounds worth of equipment just left there in a flimsy container. Maybe express your surprise that nobody has emptied it of it's contents yet.

I'm sure even if they don't have the balls to do it themselves they will know someone who does.
I assume, they're quite secure. Some are even used to store heavy plant machinery...

Zombie

1,587 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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soad said:
I assume, they're quite secure. Some are even used to store heavy plant machinery...
The older one's have weak spots. Obviously I'm not going to post details, but most are easy enough to get into.