Vehicle beacons.

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Roadru77er

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473 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Did consider putting this in S.P.L. Mods do so at your discretion.

I regularly travel past the A21 roadworks at Castle Hill (Tonbrige/Tunbridge Wells dual carriageway extension) I notice that many of the works vehicles (mainly those huge tippers) have green flashing beacons in addition to the regular Amber variety. As far as I know green beacons are only supposed to be used by doctors. Any thoughts? Can't anyone enlighten me?

Taita

7,603 posts

203 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Shows the driver has his seat belt on.


Roadru77er

Original Poster:

473 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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So is it wired so it comes on when fastened?

Drumroll

3,755 posts

120 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Yes wired into the mechanism. Some are wired in such a way that just putting the belt into the mechanism won't activate the green light they actually have to be "round" the driver.

Roadru77er

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473 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Thanx

ging84

8,890 posts

146 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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genuine example of health and safety gone mad

This green light will flash every 3 seconds to show that everything is ok.
How do you turn it off?
It Can't be switched off!
What if you need to drive on the road?
Emm

PoleDriver

28,636 posts

194 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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andym1603

1,812 posts

172 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Quarry vehicles use the green flashing beacons.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Its a Highways England requirement to show the driver is using the seatbelt as classically tipper drivers never bothered with them.

Don't think flashing green was the best choice though.

SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Green flashing /strobe lights have been used in a wide range on construction plant
for a number of years, such as dump trucks, excavators and site equipment.
Also fitted to HGV's to indicate ABS etc at a steady green behind the cab.
Also for Gas Monitoring & Warning systems on buildings & certain plant.

Tony1963

4,752 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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ging84 said:
genuine example of health and safety gone mad

This green light will flash every 3 seconds to show that everything is ok.
How do you turn it off?
It Can't be switched off!
What if you need to drive on the road?
Emm
H&S gone mad? Really? Protecting people in hazardous environments from putting themselves at risk is madness? You're wrong.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Tony1963 said:
ging84 said:
genuine example of health and safety gone mad

This green light will flash every 3 seconds to show that everything is ok.
How do you turn it off?
It Can't be switched off!
What if you need to drive on the road?
Emm
H&S gone mad? Really? Protecting people in hazardous environments from putting themselves at risk is madness? You're wrong.
Perhaps we'd be better off without people too dumb to take basic precautions to look after themselves. If this is necessary then I should be on all vehicles. Would you have one on your car? If not why not?

Tony1963

4,752 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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REALIST123 said:
Perhaps we'd be better off without people too dumb to take basic precautions to look after themselves. If this is necessary then I should be on all vehicles. Would you have one on your car? If not why not?
You need to understand and accept that many people at work try to avoid taking these basic precautions. For the sake of a few green lights I bet a few nasty injuries are prevented every year. Maybe in another twenty years the lights won't be necessary as the current culture will have faded.

Perhaps on cars just having the hazards flashing while in forward gears would be sufficient. I don't know.

It's so easy to jump on the "H&S gone mad" bandwagon if you don't give the human factor a second's thought.

surveyor_101

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179 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Tony1963 said:
H&S gone mad? Really? Protecting people in hazardous environments from putting themselves at risk is madness? You're wrong.
What about making a dumper driver whee class 2 eye protection glasses in the pouring rain. This is because some top 10 construction companies have a blanket policy and not pint of work risk assessments. I think it's more dangerous!

ging84

8,890 posts

146 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Tony1963 said:
H&S gone mad? Really? Protecting people in hazardous environments from putting themselves at risk is madness? You're wrong.
Completely missing the point, unless you are hinting somewhere in there that there is a good reason the light couldn't flash to show something is wrong, like normal warning lights.
If i was a site supervisor and i had to watch out for drivers not wearing thier seat belt, i'd much rather be able to look out and have my attention drawn to the occasional one not wearing his seat belt by a flashing light rather than constantly having to visually sweep all the moving vehicles to try and catch ones without the flashing light.

Tony1963

4,752 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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ging84 said:
Completely missing the point, unless you are hinting somewhere in there that there is a good reason the light couldn't flash to show something is wrong, like normal warning lights.
If i was a site supervisor and i had to watch out for drivers not wearing thier seat belt, i'd much rather be able to look out and have my attention drawn to the occasional one not wearing his seat belt by a flashing light rather than constantly having to visually sweep all the moving vehicles to try and catch ones without the flashing light.
Remove bulb, illusion complete.

ging84

8,890 posts

146 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Tony1963 said:
Remove bulb, illusion complete.
Right so it's worth compromising a warning system to make it woefully inefficient because you cannot guarantee that workers can be trusted not to sabotage thier own safety equipment, and you don't see that as health and safety gone mad?


Tony1963

4,752 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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ging84 said:
Right so it's worth compromising a warning system to make it woefully inefficient because you cannot guarantee that workers can be trusted not to sabotage thier own safety equipment, and you don't see that as health and safety gone mad?
I think that a few people are getting a bit angry about something that really doesn't concern them. H&S gone mad is when a billion to one sort of incident is catered for with expensive/restrictive/inadequate (add more as you wish) procedures. I don't think that's the case here.

ging84

8,890 posts

146 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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I give up

Sportidge

1,032 posts

237 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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I was at the local tip this weekend and spotted one of the machines with the green flashing beacon.

However, they also had blue flashing LED ones at the rear?! What are they used for?