So who is going to admit to 6 points, or knowing someone....
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I am perpexed by the high proportion of people I see in London in high-end cars with phones to their ears (or doing that idiotic Apprentice thing of holding the phone flat in front of hte mouth on lodspeaker). These cars have bluetooth. Are people too thick or lazy to work out how to pair their phones?
Zod said:
I am perpexed by the high proportion of people I see in London in high-end cars with phones to their ears (or doing that idiotic Apprentice thing of holding the phone flat in front of hte mouth on lodspeaker). These cars have bluetooth. Are people too thick or lazy to work out how to pair their phones?
This is still routine across Europe.The amount of taxi drivers in all countries that take and receive calls whilst driving and handhold the phone is mystifying.
I recently was in Basel and the driver taking us from the hotel did it. The usual drop in driving standards followed and I commented on the stupidity of it to the other customers, along the lines of why would a professional driver not have hands-free or at least a bluetooth earpiece, with some swear words chucked in for good measure. Turns out the driver's English was better than he let on as we had him again on following days, the point stands though.
Same in Denmark.
Same everywhere.
Chap behind me in the usual stop start queue home on Friday was very clearly looking into his lap for a the majority of the ten minutes we were queuing with only the odd glance at where he was driving. 99% sure he was texting, but he could have been squeezing spots on his winky.
TBH I would have rather he was on the phone
TBH I would have rather he was on the phone
Digby said:
I'm a bus driver and this is a bloody good idea!vonhosen said:
Because there are more speeders than anything else?
It doesn't matter what new schemes or proposals they dream up to promote their next clampdown, or if cameras were suddenly cut back as a result of massive increases in traffic police (as some on here wish for to address the prevalence of careless and poor driving) the reality is all roads lead to more 'speeders' in the frame.They can't help themselves.
Easy convictions that they believe makes them look good. Maybe they even believe it themselves it's been going on for so long.
Both you and I know it's predominantly trivial and inconsequential whatever robotic propaganda you spew out.
cmaguire said:
vonhosen said:
Because there are more speeders than anything else?
It doesn't matter what new schemes or proposals they dream up to promote their next clampdown, or if cameras were suddenly cut back as a result of massive increases in traffic police (as some on here wish for to address the prevalence of careless and poor driving) the reality is all roads lead to more 'speeders' in the frame.They can't help themselves.
Easy convictions that they believe makes them look good. Maybe they even believe it themselves it's been going on for so long.
Both you and I know it's predominantly trivial and inconsequential whatever robotic propaganda you spew out.
That doesn't mean they deal with the offending you personally dislike & ignore the offending you personally are happy with.
That will result in the proportion of offences reported being relative to the proportion of offences committed/witnessed.
That seems perfectly natural.
k all that, laugh at my joke damn you!!vonhosen said:
They are tasked to deal with variety of offending if spotted.
That doesn't mean they deal with the offending you personal want them to & ignore the offending you personally don't want them to.
That will result in the proportion of offences reported being relative to the proportion of offences committed/witnessed.
That seems perfectly natural.
No personal responsibility because they were 'just following orders'?That doesn't mean they deal with the offending you personal want them to & ignore the offending you personally don't want them to.
That will result in the proportion of offences reported being relative to the proportion of offences committed/witnessed.
That seems perfectly natural.
I would choose my choice of career more carefully. The place is full of hypocrites enforcing rules upon others that they frequently ignore themselves.
cmaguire said:
vonhosen said:
They are tasked to deal with variety of offending if spotted.
That doesn't mean they deal with the offending you personal want them to & ignore the offending you personally don't want them to.
That will result in the proportion of offences reported being relative to the proportion of offences committed/witnessed.
That seems perfectly natural.
No personal responsibility because they were 'just following orders'?That doesn't mean they deal with the offending you personal want them to & ignore the offending you personally don't want them to.
That will result in the proportion of offences reported being relative to the proportion of offences committed/witnessed.
That seems perfectly natural.
I would choose my choice of career more carefully. The place is full of hypocrites enforcing rules upon others that they frequently ignore themselves.
You were to chose your career, they free to chose theirs.
cmaguire said:
vonhosen said:
Of course they were personally responsible. They were responsible for how they dealt with the people they stopped/reported. They had to do that lawfully etc.
You were to chose your career, they free to chose theirs.
How about my last sentence? You were to chose your career, they free to chose theirs.
Are they not prosecuted themselves if caught doing similar?
Have they claimed their driving is perfect?
The speeding laws apply to everybody.
vonhosen said:
Have they claimed higher morals?
Are they not prosecuted themselves if caught doing similar?
Have they claimed their driving is perfect?
The speeding laws apply to everybody.
Punishing people for doing things you do yourself doesn't sit right with me, it's hypocritical. This is where a level of tolerance and discretion is required, but nowadays no longer does (and you denying that it ever did doesn't make that so). Are they not prosecuted themselves if caught doing similar?
Have they claimed their driving is perfect?
The speeding laws apply to everybody.
On a personal level I had a far greater respect for the law as a whole 25 years ago than I do now, which is contrary to what might be expected as maturity and wisdom is gained with age. It's most likely the petty nature of its practise and enforcement that does it for me, but in any case these days I would actually take some satisfaction from putting one over on them.
cmaguire said:
vonhosen said:
Have they claimed higher morals?
Are they not prosecuted themselves if caught doing similar?
Have they claimed their driving is perfect?
The speeding laws apply to everybody.
Punishing people for doing things you do yourself doesn't sit right with me, it's hypocritical. This is where a level of tolerance and discretion is required, but nowadays no longer does (and you denying that it ever did doesn't make that so). Are they not prosecuted themselves if caught doing similar?
Have they claimed their driving is perfect?
The speeding laws apply to everybody.
On a personal level I had a far greater respect for the law as a whole 25 years ago than I do now, which is contrary to what might be expected as maturity and wisdom is gained with age. It's most likely the petty nature of its practise and enforcement that does it for me, but in any case these days I would actually take some satisfaction from putting one over on them.
With your 'only following orders' I can see how that may be a dilemma resulting in you quitting where you find the societal view at complete odds with your values (values being far higher held than merely beliefs), but I can also see how it is equitable that for fairly minor matters you can accept & act as a professional witness for the society you serve even if the societal view differs with your own personal beliefs.
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