Property identity fraud

[petrolbloke]

QuickQuack said:

There is no David Ellis Dunn or Ellis Dunn in the List of Registered Medical Practitioners (ie the list of doctors registered with the General Medical Council).

Could be a non-medical doctor, i.e. someone with a PhD.

[TROOPER88]

matjk said:

Id try posting a letter, via royal mail to myself but with the company name on it to see if it arrives. If it doesnt you can be fairly sure a divert has been set up.
Google maps has another business operating at your address (17b)Brabant House Clinic, with a Doctor running it, but his website indicates its actual just 17 (no b) probably no link.
I do wonder is 87, QUEENS DRIVE is being upfront, in some ways i wonder what would have happened if you had not found out and just sold it, i cant see how there could be any comeback if you sold in good faith. No you know so its a different story.
Its way to easy to set up a limited company in this country, odering a pizza is harder . Hope you get it sorted, you don't want angry "investors" turning up and demanding money or extracting revenge.

Hi
Good idea with the letter.

There is a acupuncture practice and they number 17. Mine is 17B.

I'll try Queens Road again on the Weekend. The lady said her son was some kind of chemistry doctor and not a medical doctor.

Once the website and Facebook sites are pulled down, I'm hoping angry investors will no longer be able to see my address

[Red Devil]

TROOPER88 said:

Since my address is the only available address on their website you would think that if this is a massive scam. lots of investors would be turning up at the property seeking their money!

Early doors: give it a bit more time.

The 'Personal Binary System' is currently 'under maintenance' and cannot be accessed - https://x-binary.com/tools/?page=news - yeah, right.
The Manager levels are classic pyramid scheme stuff.

TROOPER88 said:

On the website there is a tab that says 'representatives'. I clicked on this and then the UK icon and there are half a dozen or so contacts. I called a couple of them and they are genuine people who have invested into this business but had no idea they were listed on the site as representatives.

There are more than half a dozen. Click on that tab several times and you'll find the names change. Anything strike you about the common denominator of most of them?

Bigyoke said:

Report to action fraud. You might want to check with the credit reference agencies as well.

^^This^^

I wonder what sort of Doctor (Divinity/Civil Law/Letters/Science/Music/Medicine) David Ellis Dunn is btw: he is not on the GMC list.

[Rude-boy]

TROOPER88 said:

That form is if you are 'not' living at the property.

I am....

Ah, then i wonder how the hell the correspondence you much have had regarding the company has never turned up there for you to see. That;'s a bit of a bother... Could understand it if a let property but someone will have needed to produce some form of ID at some point and postal verification/ correspondance should have cropped up long before now. As you say this is not the first gent to be involved.


Regarding the mortgage point - if there is a mortgage any scammer seeking to sell an unoccupied property, or one that they are just renting, will not be able to as the mortgage would need to be redeemed and unless the owner was spectacularly thick they would not be giving a tenant all the details that they would need to pretend to be them to the mortgage company. With a title like Property Fraud for your topic this is one of the majore property frauds going on - sod being the reg add. of a company, try finding out that someone now living in UEA has sold your mortgage free central London flat and scarpered with the cash....

[TROOPER88]

Also I am selling the property to friends of friends.

Therefore this matter does need to be cleared up.... fast

[celtaidd]

There was also Cryptocoins Ltd (a dissolved company incorporated on 29 July 2013 with the registered office located in Greater London. Cryptocoins Ltd has been running for 3 Years 7 Months. There are currently 2 active directors and 0 active secretaries according to the latest annual return submitted on 29 July 2013)
.registered at 17b if that's any help?

Edited by celtaidd on Wednesday 8th March 18:37

[TROOPER88]

celtaidd said:

There was also Cryptocoins Ltd (a dissolved company incorporated on 29 July 2013 with the registered office located in Greater London. Cryptocoins Ltd has been running for 3 Years 7 Months. There are currently 2 active directors and 0 active secretaries according to the latest annual return submitted on 29 July 2013)
.registered at 17b if that's any help?

Companies run by the deceased

[TooMany2cvs]

TROOPER88 said:

celtaidd said:

There was also Cryptocoins Ltd (a dissolved company incorporated on 29 July 2013 with the registered office located in Greater London. Cryptocoins Ltd has been running for 3 Years 7 Months. There are currently 2 active directors and 0 active secretaries according to the latest annual return submitted on 29 July 2013)
.registered at 17b if that's any help?

Companies run by the deceased

Similar-sounding business...

Are you 100% sure he's dead?

[TROOPER88]

TooMany2cvs said:

Similar-sounding business...

Are you 100% sure he's dead?

Yes
100%

[TooLateForAName]

TROOPER88 said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Similar-sounding business...

Are you 100% sure he's dead?

Yes
100%

The patio?

[TooLateForAName]

Red Devil said:

TROOPER88 said:

On the website there is a tab that says 'representatives'. I clicked on this and then the UK icon and there are half a dozen or so contacts. I called a couple of them and they are genuine people who have invested into this business but had no idea they were listed on the site as representatives.

There are more than half a dozen. Click on that tab several times and you'll find the names change. Anything strike you about the common denominator of most of them?

Seems to be a fair few youtube things plugging this scam to the asian community. I'd say that they are the main targets.

[Red Devil]

TROOPER88 said:

celtaidd said:

There was also Cryptocoins Ltd (a dissolved company incorporated on 29 July 2013 with the registered office located in Greater London. Cryptocoins Ltd has been running for 3 Years 7 Months. There are currently 2 active directors and 0 active secretaries according to the latest annual return submitted on 29 July 2013)
.registered at 17b if that's any help?

Companies run by the deceased

Which one, the Swiss financier or the American director? The former was also involved with Bitex Ltd (with its Secretary also registered at the 17b address).

Cryptocoins Ltd was subject to compulsory strike off on 10th March 2015.
Bitex Ltd was subject to compulsory strike off on 19th May 2015.
No accounts ever filed for either entity.

Can of worms springs to mind...

[TROOPER88]

Red Devil said:

Which one, the Swiss financier or the American director? The former was also involved with Bitex Ltd (with its Secretary also registered at the 17b address).

Cryptocoins Ltd was subject to compulsory strike off on 10th March 2015.
Bitex Ltd was subject to compulsory strike off on 19th May 2015.
No accounts ever filed for either entity.

Can of worms springs to mind...

The Swiss

[QuickQuack]

petrolbloke said:

QuickQuack said:

There is no David Ellis Dunn or Ellis Dunn in the List of Registered Medical Practitioners (ie the list of doctors registered with the General Medical Council).

Could be a non-medical doctor, i.e. someone with a PhD.

As one who belongs to that rare breed who have both a medical degree and a PhD, I do know that quite well. However, the occupation of someone with a PhD isn't being a doctor; they're just doing whatever their job is, be that a researcher, a lecturer or anything else, and they also have a doctorate. The latter really shouldn't be described as "being a doctor" which is an occupational description referring to those who practice medicine, it should be described as having a doctorate or a PhD (or DPhil). The way this is being portrayed by the mother instantly makes me suspicious and uneasy. Little old ladies can be very deceptive.

[_dobbo_]

QuickQuack said:

The way this is being portrayed by the mother instantly makes me suspicious and uneasy. Little old ladies can be very deceptive.

If I was a doctor of anything I suspect my mum would proudly tell everyone! "Oh yes, my son is a doctor"... Seems fairly reasonable that it could be that.

[bobtail4x4]

he has an "ology" he is a scientist?

[TROOPER88]

I'm going to call to see the 'Doctor' on the weekend to get to the bottom of it.

Company house will have had my forms back today so I'll be chasing them tomorrow.

[JonV8V]

X-binary.com seems to be administered from Australia for what it's worth.

https://who.is/whois/x-binary.com

[TROOPER88]

JonV8V said:

X-binary.com seems to be administered from Australia for what it's worth.

https://who.is/whois/x-binary.com

I see

What does that mean exactly?

There is a contact phone number there

[TooMany2cvs]

TROOPER88 said:

JonV8V said:

X-binary.com seems to be administered from Australia for what it's worth.

https://who.is/whois/x-binary.com

I see

What does that mean exactly?

There is a contact phone number there

It means that whoever bought the domain did so through an Australian outfit called "Privacy Protection Service inc" ( www.privacyprotect.org)...
Their masthead:

It means no more than that. They could be anybody, anywhere in the world. You could ring the Aussies, but they'll tell you nothing. They have a "report abuse" form on the site, and they'll reveal the owners "where appropriate". It's a safe bet it won't be deemed appropriate.