New petition to getthe Government to raise motorway speed li
Discussion
Willy Nilly said:
vonhosen said:
Environmental reasons (noise/emissions).
No matter how I drive my car it won't have a thirst like most big cars, nor will it ever have the kind of particulate emissions a diesel chucks out. It's my fuel and I'll burn it as I see fit in my Euro 5 compliant car. vonhosen said:
Willy Nilly said:
vonhosen said:
Environmental reasons (noise/emissions).
No matter how I drive my car it won't have a thirst like most big cars, nor will it ever have the kind of particulate emissions a diesel chucks out. It's my fuel and I'll burn it as I see fit in my Euro 5 compliant car. One minute it's road safety. Then it's emissions, but low emission cars aren't exempt. Then it's to cut noise, so a decibel limit really, but there are no decibel monitors by the side of the road. Surely an electric car has zero local emissions and is very quite and should thus be exempt from limits in place for noise and emissions reasons. Then it's traffic control, that funnily enough even applies off peak and in the dead of night.
My car is small in most company, it's serviced on time every time, it's also considerably quieter than a new diesel I used recently and largely used off peak. So what sanctions do you think this little car deserves against it?
Ans, before you answer. A lot of my club mates are getting their cars broken into while we go for a run.The local constabulary and doing half of f
k all about it, but seemingly will move heaven and earth to enforce and prosecute even the most trivial seeding offence, regardless of the conditions on the road that the time, and this is before we factor in the break ins on farms in the local area, which they are also totally useless at dealing with, putting the onus, just like the car break ins on the victims, rather than the criminals. Willy Nilly said:
vonhosen said:
Willy Nilly said:
vonhosen said:
Environmental reasons (noise/emissions).
No matter how I drive my car it won't have a thirst like most big cars, nor will it ever have the kind of particulate emissions a diesel chucks out. It's my fuel and I'll burn it as I see fit in my Euro 5 compliant car. MrBarry123 said:
Yes, but the chances of getting tugged for 85mph are pretty low.
I'm guessing some of the people who want the limit raised to 90mph do so on the basis that it'll free them to do 100mph+ without being tugged, however this simply won't happen given the inevitable increase in enforcement.
And anyway, no-one NEEDS to travel at more than 70mph as a) the UK simply isn't that big and b) the vast majority of people's journeys wouldn't benefit in a meaningful way.
ETA: To clarify, I'd love the motorways to have a higher limit however I just don't think the amendment would be worth the hassle.
Can't see it working. I'm guessing some of the people who want the limit raised to 90mph do so on the basis that it'll free them to do 100mph+ without being tugged, however this simply won't happen given the inevitable increase in enforcement.
And anyway, no-one NEEDS to travel at more than 70mph as a) the UK simply isn't that big and b) the vast majority of people's journeys wouldn't benefit in a meaningful way.
ETA: To clarify, I'd love the motorways to have a higher limit however I just don't think the amendment would be worth the hassle.
Following distance and lane discipline is do bad in this country not sure it's a good idea. Enough accidents on my stretch of the m5 with nsl. They were floating the idea of 50 limit the other day!
Also a third of cars I see are 2ton 4x4s disco, rr, rrs etc being driven like the are sports cars at 100. Clearly a great car for high speed motorway work, heavy, high centre gravity, not built to take corners at speed. Can't think of a better car to do 3 figure motorway runs.
surveyor_101 said:
Terminator X said:
Who cares, small beer for the PH Millionaires.
TX.
I know rules are for the guidance of the rich and poor to obey.TX.
However the einviroment is a big U.K. And EU think and noise and pollution trump getting there a few minutes earlier.
Cooperman said:
Flibble said:
Drag increases remarkably quickly at high speed as it's proportional to the cube of speed.
Drag increases as the square of the speed. Double the speed = four times the drag.Willy Nilly said:
One minute it's road safety. Then it's emissions, but low emission cars aren't exempt. Then it's to cut noise, so a decibel limit really, but there are no decibel monitors by the side of the road. Surely an electric car has zero local emissions and is very quite and should thus be exempt from limits in place for noise and emissions reasons. Then it's traffic control, that funnily enough even applies off peak and in the dead of night.
Most noise at speed for road cars is tyre noise (bonkers exhausts excepted), so electric cars would not be exempt.PoleDriver said:
So they can feel better if they only make it 80MPH... Win-Win! 
Had an epic drive to dover this morning, 160 miles of free flowing motorways. Strangely no congestion.I set cruise to 60 and relaxed, those going faster would overtake then I would catch up again as they had to slow down usually concertining as they out braked each other.
No need to raise the limit at all
PH XKR said:
PoleDriver said:
So they can feel better if they only make it 80MPH... Win-Win!
Had an epic drive to dover this morning, 160 miles of free flowing motorways. Strangely no congestion.I set cruise to 60 and relaxed, those going faster would overtake then I would catch up again as they had to slow down usually concertining as they out braked each other.
No need to raise the limit at all
PH XKR said:
Had an epic drive to dover this morning, 160 miles of free flowing motorways. Strangely no congestion.
I set cruise to 60 and relaxed, those going faster would overtake then I would catch up again as they had to slow down usually concertining as they out braked each other.
No need to raise the limit at all
I tend to agree, I get 50-60 mpg at 65mph in golf gtd and half of those who pass me I catch up when we leave the motorway. Often little point in speeding.I set cruise to 60 and relaxed, those going faster would overtake then I would catch up again as they had to slow down usually concertining as they out braked each other.
No need to raise the limit at all
Some days I come of the motorway for a b road blast but daily commute and works trips I dont see the need to speed all over the place.
I recently drove a trackered marked works vehicle on 500 miles round trip and hardly went over 65. It was so much more relaxing than trying to go as fast as traffic allows.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Friday 17th March 13:13
PH XKR said:
Had an epic drive to dover this morning, 160 miles of free flowing motorways. Strangely no congestion.
I set cruise to 60 and relaxed, those going faster would overtake then I would catch up again as they had to slow down usually concertining as they out braked each other.
No need to raise the limit at all
What on earth was 'epic' about that? Sounds boring to me.I set cruise to 60 and relaxed, those going faster would overtake then I would catch up again as they had to slow down usually concertining as they out braked each other.
No need to raise the limit at all
bad company said:
What on earth was 'epic' about that? Sounds boring to me.
Any idiot can stamp on the throttle on the motorway and do 80mph plus accelerating and braking and wasting fuel. To drive economically with smooth planning and flowing and to achieve maximum efficiency actually takes some skill, it can be quite interesting to see whats the highest mpg you can get.
surveyor_101 said:
Any idiot can stamp on the throttle on the motorway and do 80mph plus accelerating and braking and wasting fuel.
To drive economically with smooth planning and flowing and to achieve maximum efficiency actually takes some skill, it can be quite interesting to see whats the highest mpg you can get.
To you perhaps, to me that sounds so dull I'd probably fall asleep and if not I'd perhaps ram a flyover upright head-on in an attempt to end it all.To drive economically with smooth planning and flowing and to achieve maximum efficiency actually takes some skill, it can be quite interesting to see whats the highest mpg you can get.
Driving or riding quickly and competently requires way more skill than that, although the default standpoint of the authorities and those that support them insists that any claim to competence ceases as soon as one of their pedestrian limits is exceeded.
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