New average speed cameras - M4 - Heston Eastbound

New average speed cameras - M4 - Heston Eastbound

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Stig

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11,817 posts

284 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Just a heads-up.

Over recent days, what appear to be average speed cameras have been installed on the Heston stretch of the M4 where the NSL drops to 60mph.

I noticed the first a few days ago, but some of the mounting posts had no cameras on them. Today, all present and correct!

So expect them to be switched on soon (if not already).

Dave Finney

404 posts

146 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Is that a temporary 60 mph with temporary AS cameras for works, or all permanent?

AlexRS2782

8,047 posts

213 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Isn't this related to the upcoming misery until at least 2022 (or more likely 2025 if the M3 overrun is anything to go by banghead ) with the M4 being converted to a "Smart" motorway?

http://roads.highways.gov.uk/projects/m4-junctions...

Stig

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11,817 posts

284 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Dave Finney said:
Is that a temporary 60 mph with temporary AS cameras for works, or all permanent?
No, this section has been 60mph for years now. Basically the stretch with what was the bus lane (then Olympic VIP lane).

humpy

1,171 posts

219 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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The cameras are also on the gantries of the elevated section. Looks like they are applying the same enforcement as the A40 average speed zones.

Eastbound - heading into town - the cameras are from just after Junction 3 Hayes all the way through to the end of the elevated section at Junction 1.

Westbound - heading out of town - they are from Junction 1 the beginning of the elevated section to the end of the elevated section.

There are no average speed camera signs up yet, but the standard enforcement signs have been up for a long time.

Prizam

2,335 posts

141 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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As an update to this... ive just done my commute in to London.

M4 - A4. Heston services to the Porsche garage are now all average speed cameras. The 60 AND the 40 bit.

The signage is now correct and it looks to be like the cameras are live. However, first pass would suggest they are all forward facing, so bikes should at least be ok.


When it becomes this difficult to stay within the law, then its the law that is wrong. I want to concentrate on Dorris on her phone or the random car that comfort breaks. Not calculating my average speed, sitting in some ones blind spot because we are all traveling within 1mph of each other.


RanchoGrande

1,151 posts

169 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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I don't get this rampant determination to average speed trap all the major London roads. It's made traffic worse due to the constant braking and nervousness of drivers.

What's the primary reason for doing it? Safety or to ease congestion? These roads were mad busy most of the time anyway so I don't feel like speeding was the issue. There hasn't been much of a public outcry either, which has surprised me. Maybe we've just collectively accepted submission.

tylerama

311 posts

207 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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To summarise from another thread....

humpy said:
I have had a reply from Highways England...


Monday 3rd April

The cameras are yellow in colour and will have clear signage so that drivers know they are there.

We have been in consultation with Metropolitan Police who will be enforcing the speed limits over these sections of the M4.

The new cameras are due to become operational shortly, once installation, testing and commissioning has been completed.


The signage does need to be a bit clearer though. The new cameras at junction one are tiny, on the gantry above and unless you had binoculars, you'd struggle to spot them whilst driving.

CoolHands

18,633 posts

195 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Money

Stig

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11,817 posts

284 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Prizam said:
However, first pass would suggest they are all forward facing, so bikes should at least be ok.
You need to look closer - they're rear facing so us bikers are as vulnerable as cars frown

sasha320

597 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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RanchoGrande said:
What's the primary reason for doing it?
The speed / flow relationship.

Before the M25 / M3 'Smart motorway' average speed cameras, that junction used to get gridlocked more often.

bdc

6 posts

89 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Regularly travelling this stretch of the M4 never used to feel unsafe but now with everyone's eyes glued to their speedos instead of looking out the windscreen I've seen more near misses in the last two weeks then the 2 years before.

Whoever thought getting everyone to takes their primary focus off the road for a 5 mile stretch needs a good talking to.