Ouch! 180mph = dangerous driving and 30 months clink

[JulianHJ]

He got what he deserved.

Previous similar convictions
Carries a knife
Rides on false plates
Takes the on around other road users

What an utter gimp.

[xxChrisxx]

It really is a curiosity of the sentencing system that two people can do similar things (with different consequences) and be punished differently.

This case: Biker going quickly but no accident or injury. - 14 months custodial for dangerous driving.
Prostitute road rage whilst on a suspended sentence for blackmail: Rams a biker, deliberately, causing injury. - 12 months suspended.

Biker obviously a silly, silly boy and deserves what he got for perverting the course of justice and the knife, but how can it be justified that riding at speed (admittedly extremely excessive) and not causing an accident, is worse than deliberately ramming someone?

EDIT: I suppose I should clarify. I think the woman should have has a custodial sentence too. Not just for the driving, but breaching a suspended sentence.

Edited by xxChrisxx on Monday 20th March 12:15

[4040vision]

xxChrisxx said:

It really is a curiosity of the sentencing system that two people can do similar things (with different consequences) and be punished differently.

This case: Biker going quickly but no accident or injury. - 14 months custodial for dangerous driving.
Prostitute road rage whilst on a suspended sentence for blackmail: Rams a biker, deliberately, causing injury. - 12 months suspended.

Biker obviously a silly, silly boy and deserves what he got for perverting the course of justice and the knife, but how can it be justified that riding at speed (admittedly extremely excessive) and not causing an accident, is worse than deliberately ramming someone?

EDIT: I suppose I should clarify. I think the woman should have has a custodial sentence too. Not just for the driving, but breaching a suspended sentence.

Edited by xxChrisxx on Monday 20th March 12:15

They are both examples of dangerous driving. One was considered more worthy of a custodial sentence than the other.

A collision or injury doesn't have to occur to make the driving dangerous. Wen you think about the word danger it means that there is a potential for something bad to happen. When something bad does occur the danger is over, hence dangerous driving can be charged when no damage or injury has occurred.

[Pip1968]

Surely both examples qualify here. Using a vehicle like a weapon to ram someone has to be dangerous driving - ???

Pip

[xjay1337]

4040vision said:

xxChrisxx said:

It really is a curiosity of the sentencing system that two people can do similar things (with different consequences) and be punished differently.

This case: Biker going quickly but no accident or injury. - 14 months custodial for dangerous driving.
Prostitute road rage whilst on a suspended sentence for blackmail: Rams a biker, deliberately, causing injury. - 12 months suspended.

Biker obviously a silly, silly boy and deserves what he got for perverting the course of justice and the knife, but how can it be justified that riding at speed (admittedly extremely excessive) and not causing an accident, is worse than deliberately ramming someone?

EDIT: I suppose I should clarify. I think the woman should have has a custodial sentence too. Not just for the driving, but breaching a suspended sentence.

Edited by xxChrisxx on Monday 20th March 12:15

They are both examples of dangerous driving. One was considered more worthy of a custodial sentence than the other.

A collision or injury doesn't have to occur to make the driving dangerous. Wen you think about the word danger it means that there is a potential for something bad to happen. When something bad does occur the danger is over, hence dangerous driving can be charged when no damage or injury has occurred.

So you think that a biker going fast with no injuries is worse than using a vehicle as a deadly weapon?

[4040vision]

xjay1337 said:

4040vision said:

xxChrisxx said:

It really is a curiosity of the sentencing system that two people can do similar things (with different consequences) and be punished differently.

This case: Biker going quickly but no accident or injury. - 14 months custodial for dangerous driving.
Prostitute road rage whilst on a suspended sentence for blackmail: Rams a biker, deliberately, causing injury. - 12 months suspended.

Biker obviously a silly, silly boy and deserves what he got for perverting the course of justice and the knife, but how can it be justified that riding at speed (admittedly extremely excessive) and not causing an accident, is worse than deliberately ramming someone?

EDIT: I suppose I should clarify. I think the woman should have has a custodial sentence too. Not just for the driving, but breaching a suspended sentence.

Edited by xxChrisxx on Monday 20th March 12:15

They are both examples of dangerous driving. One was considered more worthy of a custodial sentence than the other.

A collision or injury doesn't have to occur to make the driving dangerous. Wen you think about the word danger it means that there is a potential for something bad to happen. When something bad does occur the danger is over, hence dangerous driving can be charged when no damage or injury has occurred.

So you think that a biker going fast with no injuries is worse than using a vehicle as a deadly weapon?

Where did you get that, the Ladybird book of logic?
Don't talk bollix.

[oyster]

xjay1337 said:

4040vision said:

xxChrisxx said:

It really is a curiosity of the sentencing system that two people can do similar things (with different consequences) and be punished differently.

This case: Biker going quickly but no accident or injury. - 14 months custodial for dangerous driving.
Prostitute road rage whilst on a suspended sentence for blackmail: Rams a biker, deliberately, causing injury. - 12 months suspended.

Biker obviously a silly, silly boy and deserves what he got for perverting the course of justice and the knife, but how can it be justified that riding at speed (admittedly extremely excessive) and not causing an accident, is worse than deliberately ramming someone?

EDIT: I suppose I should clarify. I think the woman should have has a custodial sentence too. Not just for the driving, but breaching a suspended sentence.

Edited by xxChrisxx on Monday 20th March 12:15

They are both examples of dangerous driving. One was considered more worthy of a custodial sentence than the other.

A collision or injury doesn't have to occur to make the driving dangerous. Wen you think about the word danger it means that there is a potential for something bad to happen. When something bad does occur the danger is over, hence dangerous driving can be charged when no damage or injury has occurred.

So you think that a biker going fast with no injuries is worse than using a vehicle as a deadly weapon?

It's classic PH - there's always someone who thinks even extreme speeding is defensible.

[xjay1337]

The speed was stupid and a custodial sentence is deserved.

But I would rather put someone in jail for assault with a deadly weapon rather than speeding...

[GreatGranny]

It's not either or is it?

You can put both in jail.

[Tom_C76]

GreatGranny said:

It's not either or is it?

You can put both in jail.

However, the presumption is, rightly or wrongly, that women should generally avoid jail sentences for offences that would always get a bloke locked up.

[H20DJY]

ashleyman said:

Am I reading this correctly that an OFF DUTY Police officer initiated a pursuit?

An unlikely story but this happened to me years ago. Gesturing (was speeding slightly) aggressively, I took him for a road warrior and drove past, he then caught up and stuck to my rear bumper, driving very aggressively. I took him for a nutter and tried to get away, eventually stopped in traffic in time for a marked car to catch up and all to become clear. He was in his own car and aside from taking my details it was left at the roadside. That was about 15 years ago, now a bit older and wiser I would have taken it further, he was a total maniac.

[donkmeister]

sim16v said:

Had to laugh when they switched the lights off and were following some member of the public at 110mph!

Not to mention when Audi man looked in his rearview mirror, realised he was being followed by a policecar whist doing over 100mph and hit the brakes... Assuming they didn't pull him after the video cuts he is a lucky guy!!!!