Scaffolding Lorry/Van
Discussion
Riley Blue said:
This is S,P & L and the OP asked about legality, not asthetics.
It's a forum. I supplied an unsolicited opinion. It's how forums work. Someone will be along soon enough to start tearing my opinion to pieces, telling me it's plain wrong. Then a baying mob will descend upon me in a feeding frenzy, to the point where I'll get bored and leave the thread, yet the mob will continue like dogs with a bone. It's (sadly) how PistonHeads works these days.How f
king miserable a forum would it be if every question immediately yielded the definitive answer and no-one contributed any further? There'd be one Hell of a lot of two-post threads, and we could start charging the general public for low cost legal advice...
TooMany2cvs said:
It appears to be a one-man band.
http://bulldogscaffoldingltd.co.uk
It looks like a tinpot company, the giveaway being that they can't even get their own phone number correct, on the van or even on their website.http://bulldogscaffoldingltd.co.uk
Insert Coin said:
Had to Google that FV 432, that's cool as feck, no complaints if you parked that outside my house 
Nearly all my lads take their work vans home at night, there isn't room in the yard for 40+ vans, plus most of them have no other way of getting to work and back if they don't use our vans to commute.
Presumably they all pay the relevant company car BIK tax on those vehicles for their personal use?Nearly all my lads take their work vans home at night, there isn't room in the yard for 40+ vans, plus most of them have no other way of getting to work and back if they don't use our vans to commute.
Similar issue where my mum lives, has been for years, a bloke brings his company van home every night (usually parked so as to make entry / exit from my folks' house very difficult; near the brow of a hill; facing the wrong way) yet probably pays no tax on it, not like my dad who had an essential company car.
Mandat said:
It looks like a tinpot company, the giveaway being that they can't even get their own phone number correct, on the van or even on their website.
You got all that from a phone number?The guy has a website which is a damn sight more than I've seen from most tradespeople. He even has an email address under his domain name rather than @hotmail.com or @btinternet or some other unprofessional variant that I've seen on far more lavishly sign-written vehicles.
Puzzled as to why this guy is getting so much stick for parking perfectly legally and considerately (outside of "how dare someone park a commercial vehicle on my road" nimbyism)...
Hackney said:
Presumably they all pay the relevant company car BIK tax on those vehicles for their personal use?
Similar issue where my mum lives, has been for years, a bloke brings his company van home every night (usually parked so as to make entry / exit from my folks' house very difficult; near the brow of a hill; facing the wrong way) yet probably pays no tax on it, not like my dad who had an essential company car.
Reference BIK, not your concern, and why do you think your dad's car is essential but not their neighbours van? Some proper nimby traits right there. Similar issue where my mum lives, has been for years, a bloke brings his company van home every night (usually parked so as to make entry / exit from my folks' house very difficult; near the brow of a hill; facing the wrong way) yet probably pays no tax on it, not like my dad who had an essential company car.
Durzel said:
Mandat said:
It looks like a tinpot company, the giveaway being that they can't even get their own phone number correct, on the van or even on their website.
You got all that from a phone number?The guy has a website which is a damn sight more than I've seen from most tradespeople. He even has an email address under his domain name rather than @hotmail.com or @btinternet or some other unprofessional variant that I've seen on far more lavishly sign-written vehicles.
Puzzled as to why this guy is getting so much stick for parking perfectly legally and considerately (outside of "how dare someone park a commercial vehicle on my road" nimbyism)...
Durzel said:
Mandat said:
It looks like a tinpot company, the giveaway being that they can't even get their own phone number correct, on the van or even on their website.
You got all that from a phone number?The guy has a website which is a damn sight more than I've seen from most tradespeople. He even has an email address under his domain name rather than @hotmail.com or @btinternet or some other unprofessional variant that I've seen on far more lavishly sign-written vehicles.
Durzel said:
Red Devil said:
I think the relevant point is that the landline phone number on the truck differs from the one on the website. Why would he do that?
*shrug*Maybe his landline changed between getting the truck signwritten, and now? Maybe both lines still work?
Hackney said:
Presumably they all pay the relevant company car BIK tax on those vehicles for their personal use?
Similar issue where my mum lives, has been for years, a bloke brings his company van home every night (usually parked so as to make entry / exit from my folks' house very difficult; near the brow of a hill; facing the wrong way) yet probably pays no tax on it, not like my dad who had an essential company car.
They don't have to on a van if they have no fixed work address if they go job to job in different locations then for bik purposes their jouney to and from home is business mileage. If they have to travel to the same depot every day before work then it would be private mileage and bik would apply but most companies take this into account when planning jobs.Similar issue where my mum lives, has been for years, a bloke brings his company van home every night (usually parked so as to make entry / exit from my folks' house very difficult; near the brow of a hill; facing the wrong way) yet probably pays no tax on it, not like my dad who had an essential company car.
It is an ugly pile of s
te and it must be a pain it taking 2 spaces, but do you really want to start problems with a scaffolder? 100% of the scaffolders i know are good guys but i wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of them.Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Monday 20th March 19:40
Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Monday 20th March 19:42
OldGermanHeaps said:
They don't have to on a van if they have no fixed work address if they go job to job in different locations then for bik purposes their jouney to and from home is business mileage. If they have to travel to the same depot every day before work then it would be private mileage and bik would apply but most companies take this into account when planning jobs.
It is an ugly pile of ste and it must be a pain it taking 2 spaces, but do you really want to start problems with a scaffolder? 100% of the scaffolders i know are good guys but i wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of them.
They do have a fixed work address.It is an ugly pile of s
te and it must be a pain it taking 2 spaces, but do you really want to start problems with a scaffolder? 100% of the scaffolders i know are good guys but i wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of them.Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Monday 20th March 19:40
Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Monday 20th March 19:42
Insert Coin said:
Nearly all my lads take their work vans home at night, there isn't room in the yard for 40+ vans, plus most of them have no other way of getting to work and back if they don't use our vans to commute.
Insert Coin said:
Hackney said:
Presumably they all pay the relevant company car BIK tax on those vehicles for their personal use?
Similar issue where my mum lives, has been for years, a bloke brings his company van home every night (usually parked so as to make entry / exit from my folks' house very difficult; near the brow of a hill; facing the wrong way) yet probably pays no tax on it, not like my dad who had an essential company car.
Reference BIK, not your concern, and why do you think your dad's car is essential but not their neighbours van? Some proper nimby traits right there. Similar issue where my mum lives, has been for years, a bloke brings his company van home every night (usually parked so as to make entry / exit from my folks' house very difficult; near the brow of a hill; facing the wrong way) yet probably pays no tax on it, not like my dad who had an essential company car.
You gave an example where you let employees take the vans home at night. That's private use. The same thing that company car drivers get hit for. Because the car is seen as a perk, however essential it is for the job.
In my case the job starts as soon as I leave home - no fixed office / depot to go to - if a van driver goes back to a depot before starting work it's private use.
The neighbour I referrred to had 2 cars and a caravan, with enough space off street for two of those vehicles. So he had no need to bring the van home (he had a car to commute in) other than the mileage went on the van rather than his own car.
yellowjack said:
Good. Perhaps then he'll rethink his decision to park a commercial vehicle outside a residential property, and park the blasted eyesore in the company yard. It's one thing to park a "one-man-band" tradesman's van outside his house. I've got two neighbours who's vans I don't particularly like parked in the street, but they have nowhere else to put them. But I find it hard to believe that a scaffolding firm owns only the tubes, boards, and clamps loaded into a single vehicle. Selfish, IMHO, to park such a large, ugly POS outside houses, especially if parking is already at a premium.
The "bloke's company" has created their own bad PR by sanctioning this, to be honest...
Where do you live? I would love to park a couple of my vans outside for a few weeks just to piss you off.....The "bloke's company" has created their own bad PR by sanctioning this, to be honest...
yellowjack said:
Riley Blue said:
This is S,P & L and the OP asked about legality, not asthetics.
It's a forum. I supplied an unsolicited opinion. It's how forums work. Someone will be along soon enough to start tearing my opinion to pieces, telling me it's plain wrong. Then a baying mob will descend upon me in a feeding frenzy, to the point where I'll get bored and leave the thread, yet the mob will continue like dogs with a bone. It's (sadly) how PistonHeads works these days.How f
king miserable a forum would it be if every question immediately yielded the definitive answer and no-one contributed any further? There'd be one Hell of a lot of two-post threads, and we could start charging the general public for low cost legal advice...SVTRick said:
yellowjack said:
Good. Perhaps then he'll rethink his decision to park a commercial vehicle outside a residential property, and park the blasted eyesore in the company yard. It's one thing to park a "one-man-band" tradesman's van outside his house. I've got two neighbours who's vans I don't particularly like parked in the street, but they have nowhere else to put them. But I find it hard to believe that a scaffolding firm owns only the tubes, boards, and clamps loaded into a single vehicle. Selfish, IMHO, to park such a large, ugly POS outside houses, especially if parking is already at a premium.
The "bloke's company" has created their own bad PR by sanctioning this, to be honest...
Where do you live? I would love to park a couple of my vans outside for a few weeks just to piss you off.....The "bloke's company" has created their own bad PR by sanctioning this, to be honest...
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