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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,961 posts

100 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Sick_fish said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Sick_fish said:
Just had the latest bill from Solicitor, I need to find the best part of £1,800 to continue, how I'm going to do that I don't know... frown

I will find it though, somehow!!!
I know the current administration have clamped down on legal aid some what, but have you looked at eligibility as an option?

The yougov page states the following, bold which may apply to you?

1. Overview

Legal aid can help meet the costs of legal advice, family mediation and representation in a court or tribunal.

You’ll usually need to show that:

your case is eligible for legal aid
the problem is serious
you can’t afford to pay for legal costs
You could for example get legal aid if:

you or your family are at risk of abuse or serious harm, eg domestic violence or forced marriage
you’re at risk of homelessness or losing your home
you’ve been accused of a crime, face prison or detention
you’re being discriminated against
you need family mediation
you’re adding legal arguments or bringing a case under the Human Rights Act
You’ll usually need to show that you can’t afford to pay for this help. You may have to pay some money towards the legal costs of your case or pay costs back later.
I will look into it, I fear I'm not but anything is worth a try. Thank you.

On a side note... if anyone wants to buy a nice watch... lol
You're a few weeks too late, I just bought the best man of my pending (two weeks away) wedding a watch! What is it, plus what do you want for it? I do like a nice watch. If it's something of high value I'd maybe suggest pinging the mods (can only name Big Al) a quick message and ask if on this once the advertising rules (prohibiting for sales) be bent, and link this thread for reference of your predicament, then put in the watches section. Plenty of watch fans in there.

Sick_fish

Original Poster:

3,503 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Sick_fish said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Sick_fish said:
Just had the latest bill from Solicitor, I need to find the best part of £1,800 to continue, how I'm going to do that I don't know... frown

I will find it though, somehow!!!
I know the current administration have clamped down on legal aid some what, but have you looked at eligibility as an option?

The yougov page states the following, bold which may apply to you?

1. Overview

Legal aid can help meet the costs of legal advice, family mediation and representation in a court or tribunal.

You’ll usually need to show that:

your case is eligible for legal aid
the problem is serious
you can’t afford to pay for legal costs
You could for example get legal aid if:

you or your family are at risk of abuse or serious harm, eg domestic violence or forced marriage
you’re at risk of homelessness or losing your home
you’ve been accused of a crime, face prison or detention
you’re being discriminated against
you need family mediation
you’re adding legal arguments or bringing a case under the Human Rights Act
You’ll usually need to show that you can’t afford to pay for this help. You may have to pay some money towards the legal costs of your case or pay costs back later.
I will look into it, I fear I'm not but anything is worth a try. Thank you.

On a side note... if anyone wants to buy a nice watch... lol
You're a few weeks too late, I just bought the best man of my pending (two weeks away) wedding a watch! What is it, plus what do you want for it? I do like a nice watch. If it's something of high value I'd maybe suggest pinging the mods (can only name Big Al) a quick message and ask if on this once the advertising rules (prohibiting for sales) be bent, and link this thread for reference of your predicament, then put in the watches section. Plenty of watch fans in there.
Unfortunately it's not massively high in value, but selling a few little bits to add up. I do not want this to turn into a sales ad m but it is listed in the PistonHeads watches for sale section, it is a Steinhart ocean vintage military.

Again, not a sales ad, but feel free to have a look over in the classified section where it is listed thumbup

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,961 posts

100 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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I shall, and I didn't even know there was a classified section, planned to do some ebaying tonight!

Sick_fish

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3,503 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
I shall, and I didn't even know there was a classified section, planned to do some ebaying tonight!
Haha beware... it's deadly... wink

Sick_fish

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3,503 posts

189 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Thought I’d update this....

I’ve still not seen my little girl, I wasn’t allowed to see her on her birthday (November) and it’s pretty certain I won’t be seeing by her over Christmas... it’s now been over 9 months, it’s utterly heartbreaking :-(

Currently I have a court order in place for supervised contact at a contact centre for purpose of reintroducing me to my daughter in a non-distressing environment. I was meant to be seeing her on the 9th... that never happened.

The ex has been using countless delaying tactics to draw the process out more and more...

She’s even accused CAFCASS of bullying her now they have cottoned onto her ways and are telling her she needs to do “what’s right” after I told them that if things don’t move along I’ll be going back to Court for a penal notice... FWIW CAFCASS have been brilliant now they have seen the ex in her true light.

However, I’ve been drinking too much lately (which needs to stop!) and have all but lost hope :-(

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Sick_fish said:
Thought I’d update this....

I’ve still not seen my little girl, I wasn’t allowed to see her on her birthday (November) and it’s pretty certain I won’t be seeing by her over Christmas... it’s now been over 9 months, it’s utterly heartbreaking :-(

Currently I have a court order in place for supervised contact at a contact centre for purpose of reintroducing me to my daughter in a non-distressing environment. I was meant to be seeing her on the 9th... that never happened.

The ex has been using countless delaying tactics to draw the process out more and more...

She’s even accused CAFCASS of bullying her now they have cottoned onto her ways and are telling her she needs to do “what’s right” after I told them that if things don’t move along I’ll be going back to Court for a penal notice... FWIW CAFCASS have been brilliant now they have seen the ex in her true light.

However, I’ve been drinking too much lately (which needs to stop!) and have all but lost hope :-(
Sorry to hear. When this thread popped up I had hoped to read positive news.

Keep strong & sober.

It sounds like the end is in sight...eventually...

Gargamel

14,990 posts

261 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Sick_fish said:
Thought I’d update this....

I’ve still not seen my little girl, I wasn’t allowed to see her on her birthday (November) and it’s pretty certain I won’t be seeing by her over Christmas... it’s now been over 9 months, it’s utterly heartbreaking :-(

Currently I have a court order in place for supervised contact at a contact centre for purpose of reintroducing me to my daughter in a non-distressing environment. I was meant to be seeing her on the 9th... that never happened.

The ex has been using countless delaying tactics to draw the process out more and more...

She’s even accused CAFCASS of bullying her now they have cottoned onto her ways and are telling her she needs to do “what’s right” after I told them that if things don’t move along I’ll be going back to Court for a penal notice... FWIW CAFCASS have been brilliant now they have seen the ex in her true light.

However, I’ve been drinking too much lately (which needs to stop!) and have all but lost hope :-(
Tough times. Sorry (but not surprised) the contact centre timing didn't happen.

First though, sort yourself out. Great that you recognise you are drinking too much. So focus on yourself for a while and get straightened out.

Keep pushing CAFCASS for a new date/time for contact, and save the money you don't spend on booze for a court date for enforcement of the contact order.

I hope your Mum is OK. Don't let your ex grind you down.

The ONLY revenge is to live well !


Sick_fish

Original Poster:

3,503 posts

189 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Gargamel said:
Sick_fish said:
Thought I’d update this....

I’ve still not seen my little girl, I wasn’t allowed to see her on her birthday (November) and it’s pretty certain I won’t be seeing by her over Christmas... it’s now been over 9 months, it’s utterly heartbreaking :-(

Currently I have a court order in place for supervised contact at a contact centre for purpose of reintroducing me to my daughter in a non-distressing environment. I was meant to be seeing her on the 9th... that never happened.

The ex has been using countless delaying tactics to draw the process out more and more...

She’s even accused CAFCASS of bullying her now they have cottoned onto her ways and are telling her she needs to do “what’s right” after I told them that if things don’t move along I’ll be going back to Court for a penal notice... FWIW CAFCASS have been brilliant now they have seen the ex in her true light.

However, I’ve been drinking too much lately (which needs to stop!) and have all but lost hope :-(
Tough times. Sorry (but not surprised) the contact centre timing didn't happen.

First though, sort yourself out. Great that you recognise you are drinking too much. So focus on yourself for a while and get straightened out.

Keep pushing CAFCASS for a new date/time for contact, and save the money you don't spend on booze for a court date for enforcement of the contact order.

I hope your Mum is OK. Don't let your ex grind you down.

The ONLY revenge is to live well !
It’s not like I’m getting smashed every night... just drinking more than usual, which in my opinion is too much....

I think the ex has submitted her side of paperwork now (three weeks late), after CAFCASS warned her she’d be in breach of the order and could be subject of a penal notice.

The ex then accused them of bullying her... rolleyes seems to be a running trend here...

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Sorry to hear its on-going, My split was made so much worse when she twigged I had moved on, what was an amicable split turned into an expensive 18 months of hell. Thankfully no kids involved apart her daughter from a previous relationship, which is probably a good thing, as she knew the way to get to me, which was to take my dog to the vet and say he had bitten a kid and needed pts.

It seems like the trigger for your ex's behaviours was seeing you move on and introducing your daughter to the new one far too quickly for the ex's liking, its probably too late, but ensure that your new squeeze isn't on social media, "rubbing her face in it" any more.

InitialDave

11,907 posts

119 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Vandenberg said:
she knew the way to get to me, which was to take my dog to the vet and say he had bitten a kid and needed pts.
Christ. That's terrible. I honestly think I would just kill someone for that.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,961 posts

100 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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InitialDave said:
Vandenberg said:
she knew the way to get to me, which was to take my dog to the vet and say he had bitten a kid and needed pts.
Christ. That's terrible. I honestly think I would just kill someone for that.
I would stop short of killing them, but would make it a long game, life long mission to ruin their life, seriously.

OP, sorry to hear things are dragging, but at least there is light in the tunnel, which isn't a train. One small silver lining is that I am sure that in the medium to long term your daughter shall see your mother for the witch she is.

Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Tuesday 19th December 19:27

MB140

4,066 posts

103 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Just read this from start to finish and taking you at your word I am so sorry it has turned out like this.

This is one of those days I wish I was a millionaire, I would cover the legal costs if I had money burnin a hole in my pocket.

Boils my piss when I see women do this.


My step dad (of 10 years) is in court in February for allegedly raping his ex wife (wife at the time of the supposed incident) in 1977. I didn’t think it was possible to tape your wife in 1977 (legally).

Strange how she nobbed of to turkey for 20 odd years, split up with her new fella and came back to the uk. She then decided she wanted half his house and after 2 years of legal battles she got 10%. Walked straight out of court (for the housing decision)to the cop shop to report him for rape.

He has been waiting for 16 months for his court date to start on the rape allegations.

He is the nicest man you will ever meet. About 5ft2” tall and 50kg soaking wet. She is probably twice his weight. Nobody believes it but it’s driven him to very dark places worrying about going to prison and has practically bankrupted him and my mum

Anyway sorry to derail your thread. I wish I could help but can only wish you a happy and positive outcome.

Sick_fish

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3,503 posts

189 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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MB140 said:
Just read this from start to finish and taking you at your word I am so sorry it has turned out like this.

This is one of those days I wish I was a millionaire, I would cover the legal costs if I had money burnin a hole in my pocket.

Boils my piss when I see women do this.


My step dad (of 10 years) is in court in February for allegedly raping his ex wife (wife at the time of the supposed incident) in 1977. I didn’t think it was possible to tape your wife in 1977 (legally).

Strange how she nobbed of to turkey for 20 odd years, split up with her new fella and came back to the uk. She then decided she wanted half his house and after 2 years of legal battles she got 10%. Walked straight out of court (for the housing decision)to the cop shop to report him for rape.

He has been waiting for 16 months for his court date to start on the rape allegations.

He is the nicest man you will ever meet. About 5ft2” tall and 50kg soaking wet. She is probably twice his weight. Nobody believes it but it’s driven him to very dark places worrying about going to prison and has practically bankrupted him and my mum

Anyway sorry to derail your thread. I wish I could help but can only wish you a happy and positive outcome.
Women can be so evil sometimes frown

Financially I’m in a st position, but I’ll survive, just need to get a grip of my mental state as if I’m not careful I can see myself spiralling out of control, especially given the time of year...

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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MB140 said:
Just read this from start to finish and taking you at your word I am so sorry it has turned out like this.

This is one of those days I wish I was a millionaire, I would cover the legal costs if I had money burnin a hole in my pocket.

Boils my piss when I see women do this.


My step dad (of 10 years) is in court in February for allegedly raping his ex wife (wife at the time of the supposed incident) in 1977. I didn’t think it was possible to tape your wife in 1977 (legally).

Strange how she nobbed of to turkey for 20 odd years, split up with her new fella and came back to the uk. She then decided she wanted half his house and after 2 years of legal battles she got 10%. Walked straight out of court (for the housing decision)to the cop shop to report him for rape.

He has been waiting for 16 months for his court date to start on the rape allegations.

He is the nicest man you will ever meet. About 5ft2” tall and 50kg soaking wet. She is probably twice his weight. Nobody believes it but it’s driven him to very dark places worrying about going to prison and has practically bankrupted him and my mum

Anyway sorry to derail your thread. I wish I could help but can only wish you a happy and positive outcome.
It is so wrong that current mantra is that the woman is simply believed and the man prosecuted.

mjb1

2,556 posts

159 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Sick_fish said:
Thought I’d update this....

I’ve still not seen my little girl, I wasn’t allowed to see her on her birthday (November) and it’s pretty certain I won’t be seeing by her over Christmas... it’s now been over 9 months, it’s utterly heartbreaking :-(

Currently I have a court order in place for supervised contact at a contact centre for purpose of reintroducing me to my daughter in a non-distressing environment. I was meant to be seeing her on the 9th... that never happened.

The ex has been using countless delaying tactics to draw the process out more and more...

She’s even accused CAFCASS of bullying her now they have cottoned onto her ways and are telling her she needs to do “what’s right” after I told them that if things don’t move along I’ll be going back to Court for a penal notice... FWIW CAFCASS have been brilliant now they have seen the ex in her true light.

However, I’ve been drinking too much lately (which needs to stop!) and have all but lost hope :-(
Rubbing up CAFCASS, social services, family court etc up the wrong way is a stupid move for her, these are people you want on your side. Hang in there and keep playing the long game, it'll get better/work itself out in the end.

Don't be afraid to get some help with the drinking if you need to. Remember, alcohol is a depressant, it never helps to drink when you're already feeling down.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
It is so wrong that current mantra is that the woman is simply believed and the man prosecuted.
It isn't. There needs to be a realistic prospect of conviction.

That's why most (especially historic) allegations get discontinued when they reach the CPS.

If it's how you say it is, why are there so few rape prosecutions relative to the number reported?


OP - sorry to hear of your circumstances. Hope next year sees more progress.


surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
It is so wrong that current mantra is that the woman is simply believed and the man prosecuted.
It's not fair but years ago the shoe was on the other foot and women were ignored! It's just the gone the other way now!



anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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surveyor_101 said:
It's not fair but years ago the shoe was on the other foot and women were ignored! It's just the gone the other way now!
Once a rape has gone to court, around 6/10 will result in a conviction.

That's proving often difficult cases beyond reasonable doubt to a jury.

Doesn't sound like they're punting with that strike-rate to me.





sunbeam alpine

6,945 posts

188 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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OP - I can't offer you legal advice or practical help, but I wish you good luck with this.

Keep strong and look to the future. It sounds as though your ex is alienating her helpers. Lets hope that it gets better for you soon, and you get to see your daughter!

All the best!

Zedboy

815 posts

211 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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I really hope you can keep strong OP. You have a very similar experience to me in most aspects including the 270 mile weekly trip for contact.

I endure multiple false allegations and it took 6 years for the rozzers to work her out. CAFCASS is my friend, as are CORAM www..childlawadvice.org.uk

Your child will work it out eventually... keep strong sir