6mnth old ebay / paypal dispute

6mnth old ebay / paypal dispute

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familyguy1

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778 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Hi all,

I sold a Thule roof mounting kit for £31 kit last September on Ebay, and the buyer has contacted me for the first time this morning requesting a refund as it turns out the box is labeled different to the items in it. The buyer has also opened a paypal dispute, now I know its only £31, but ebay only keeps records of items sold upto 60 days so I have no proof of what I wrote, what the pictures showed etc. so the buyer could be telling the truth but I've no way on checking any tells other than the price the item was sold for.

I'm happy to go along with what paypal say, but curious to know what people think as it has been such a long time, the items were sold in good faith.

well all thoughts.

Note I only sell/buy the odd item on ebay, I'm not a BIG sell or shop or anything like that.

SpamCan

5,026 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Scam I'd say.

The buyer has bought it and not used it and wants shut of it/money back without having to sell it himself.

It could be legitimate but I doubt it after 6 months. Even if it is, what kind of moron buys something and doesn't check it for six months.

LordHaveMurci

12,034 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Sadly it doesn't really matter does it, eBay/Paypal will side with the buyer & OP, you will get shafted.

I've been messed about royally by s on eBay recently (buying & selling), more than ever before - seriously considering closing my 12yr old account for good.

familyguy1

Original Poster:

778 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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kind of my thoughts a little. (re. being shafted and who buys something and does not check it for 6mnths)

I'm getting emails stating things like

"I am not sure where you got the kit from but appears to be completely wrong. I am currentl2y packing to go away for the weekend and am not able to use the roof rack now as the brackets don't fit! "


I mean the auction is so old, ebay does not list it so I have no idea what was said, described so no proof so I cannot even check the if the items that come back or the ones sold. Daft!

there is this statement, but has so many holes in it

Is there a time limit for a buyer to place a case?
Generally, buyers will have 30 days after actual (or latest estimated) delivery date to file a case — the same as with the current PayPal dispute resolution system. Exceptions may be made to buyers based on factors such as member account information, listing information, item location and postal method. Sellers will be asked to work things out with the buyer, if the seller and the buyer are unable to come to agreement, we won’t require reimbursement from the seller for the case.



I will just plod along with the paypal escalation !

KevinCamaroSS

11,553 posts

279 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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I thought the PayPal time limit was 60 days the same as eBay?

familyguy1

Original Poster:

778 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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this is where i got my info from

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/seller-protection-faq... much time must elapse before a buyer can file an item significantly not as described case?

Silverage

2,023 posts

129 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
I thought the PayPal time limit was 60 days the same as eBay?
Buyer is well out of time with eBay, but Paypal is 6 months now.

If you escalate the case they will ask him to return it at his expense. That may put him off if it's a bulky/expensive thing to post.

KevinCamaroSS

11,553 posts

279 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Silverage said:
Buyer is well out of time with eBay, but Paypal is 6 months now.

If you escalate the case they will ask him to return it at his expense. That may put him off if it's a bulky/expensive thing to post.
Thanks for that. OP, what date in September was it? He may be out of time.....

elanfan

5,516 posts

226 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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You should be able to ring eBay and have them provide you a link to the original listing that might help a little

familyguy1

Original Poster:

778 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Transaction date: 28 September 2016

If it is 6mnths looks like the buyer might squeak in!

familyguy1

Original Poster:

778 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/first-disput...

Has a statement of

"You have 180 days from the date you made the payment to open a dispute."



TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Any bets that the buyer's changed his car?

familyguy1

Original Poster:

778 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Very good point !

Markbarry1977

4,027 posts

102 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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This is why I will no longer sell anything on eBay. I got so fked if with people clearly on the rob/ scam.

I now use Facebook and gumtree, cost is free and is strictly cash. None of this getting robbed by eBay, then robbed by PayPal for more fees and then fked over again when the purchaser tried to scam you as well. fk that.

akirk

5,376 posts

113 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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If you know the sale item number - the ebay api will let you pull down sale information way beyond the 30 days they show it in public...
so it is still on the ebay system - ask them to send you a copy of the sale info - or sign up for an api and grab it yourself smile
always worth saving an ebay sale as a pdf etc...

99dndd

2,079 posts

88 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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I would message the buyer with something along the lines of "Apologies, I'll be happy enough to go along with the outcome of any eBay/PayPal dispute if you open one."

If they keep asking you for cash directly, just refer them down the dispute route.

If they're a scammer, the chances are that they won't bother.

If eBay's disputes run for 6 months, I imagine they'd have a copy of the ad as well.

It keeps you out of the situation, means the buyer will get a refund if you've (accidentally) mis-described the item and they gets told where to go from an independent source if they're having you on.

familyguy1

Original Poster:

778 posts

131 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Thanks 99dndd

That's exactly what I've done now, no more messaging via ebay as the buyer was getting sarcastic and snippy, I've told him its escalated with paypal and I will honour their findings, but for now he can do whatever he likes.

interesting Ebay is 45 days and I rang them and they said commonsense should prevail but its with paypal. Paypal's is 6mnths, which for purchases from companies I guess thats fine but for 2nd hand items from individuals thats taking the **is somewhat.




7db

6,058 posts

229 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Escalate. He's about to go on holiday and will time out on the return.

Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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all I can say OP is WTF has the world come too. A complete and utter dick head raises a dispute 6 months after buying something for £31. I feel your pain smile

familyguy1

Original Poster:

778 posts

131 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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  1. firstworldproblems I know !