Police tweet aftermath of accident, blame dodgy tyres

Police tweet aftermath of accident, blame dodgy tyres

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thelawnet1

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1,539 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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https://twitter.com/SurreyRoadCops/status/84454558...



Good luck claiming on insurance for that....

KungFuPanda

4,330 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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They'll still pay out.

texaxile

3,290 posts

150 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Agree. The claim inspector might just notice that. Hopefully no one was injured.

Although the tyres look OK from the outside, it's all too easy for someone to have a glance and think they're ok. I know a woman (no hubby) who runs her kids around in a Honda Jazz with 2 bald front tyres, I've pointed them out , told her of the risks and dangers and even offered to take the car, get them changed for trade price and return it, but she refuses saying that "it's in for a service next month".

Maybe the penalties for bald tyres are a bit lenient?. I dunno.

carl_w

9,172 posts

258 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Hmm, is that down to the wear bars in the central 75% of the tread? I think I can see a wear bar on both inner and outer grooves.

Spangles

1,441 posts

185 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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That would pass an MOT. Apart from the upside down bit of course.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Spangles said:
That would pass an MOT. Apart from the upside down bit of course.
It's very, very borderline, he says charitably.

Minimum 1.6mm over central 3/4 of tread. Mmm. That RH circumferential groove is definitely not 1.6mm.

SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Spangles said:
That would pass an MOT. Apart from the upside down bit of course.
Are you being serious ??
Even Stevie Wonder would fail that.

That's a definite three points.


carl_w

9,172 posts

258 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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SVTRick said:
Are you being serious ??
Even Stevie Wonder would fail that.

That's a definite three points.
Problem is with modern cars, big wheels, rubber band tyres filling the arches it's not so easy to see the condition on the inside edges.

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

115 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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carl_w said:
Problem is with modern cars, big wheels, rubber band tyres filling the arches it's not so easy to see the condition on the inside edges.
Yeah, I regularly hand check my tyres for the wear markers, but last time fronts were changed the insides edges were fked. Bad geo and it is very easy to miss this.

KungFuPanda

4,330 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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From an MOT tester's guide:

"Each side of the central band of the tyre can be devoid of tread i.e. bald and still meet the pass standard."

Regardless, there is no way an insurer can avoid paying out merely due to the state of that tyre.

Car driver: Yes I check my tyres regularly. At least once a week I take a look at the tread depth and condition of the ouster sidewall of the tyre. The tread looks fine the last time I looked and the outer sidewalls were all fine. It's impractical for me to check the inner tread and shoulder for wear as I don't have the time to jack up my car and remove the tyres for a full inspection.

The above will be enough to defeat any insurer quibbling about that tyre.


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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carl_w said:
SVTRick said:
Are you being serious ??
Even Stevie Wonder would fail that.

That's a definite three points.
Problem is with modern cars, big wheels, rubber band tyres filling the arches it's not so easy to see the condition on the inside edges.
Depends how lazy you are, just trying to glance in the arch...

Fronts - doddle. Put the steering on lock.
Rears - not hard at all. Bend down and look under the bumper.

HustleRussell

24,655 posts

160 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Looks legal to me, seen far worse.

sim72

4,945 posts

134 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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More to the point, is that you can aquaplane with brand new top quality tyres on ( I know - it's happened to me). I very much doubt that the worn inner of this chap's tyres contributed significantly to his accident.

thelawnet1

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1,539 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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HustleRussell said:
Looks legal to me, seen far worse.
There are not that bad by any means, it's uneven wear that's the issue here.

aka_kerrly

12,417 posts

210 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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HustleRussell said:
Looks legal to me, seen far worse.
Maybe legal but barely 2mm on the very best part of the tyre is far from ideal.

Sad thing is I imagine there are tens of thousands of cars on the road at this very moment with worse tyres!!

Leptons

5,113 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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aka_kerrly said:
Maybe legal but barely 2mm on the very best part of the tyre is far from ideal.

Sad thing is I imagine there are tens of thousands of cars on the road at this very moment with worse tyres!!
You're kidding right? There's 3-4mm on the rest of that tyre!

Durzel

12,258 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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carl_w said:
Problem is with modern cars, big wheels, rubber band tyres filling the arches it's not so easy to see the condition on the inside edges.
Aren't MOTs done on ramps? Every one I've had has involved the car being up in the air to check dust boots and the like.

No way is there 3-4mm on the rest of that tread (IMO). That's 2mm at best.

rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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I'm pretty sure that is an MOT pass, not illegal. 75% of the tread is OK. As for the wear pattern, our Alfa 159 does exactly that on factory geo. Set it up differently (according to the local specialists figures), and its fine. Of course when the missus takes it to the local tyre place they set it back....

Would I drive that on a dry day in the summer without much concern - yes. I'd be damn cautious if it looked like raining.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Ah, but is it a 'premium' tyre, or a 'ditchfinder'?smile

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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That would easily pass an MOT.

I've just had a battle with a leasing company for similar wear, though - modern BMWs will wear the outside edge of fronts like that for some reason - so I had tyres with a good 3-4mm on them through the inside and most of the central part of the tyre, but the extreme outside edge was bald.

I asked them if they really thought it was acceptable to wear to the cords before replacing... then just called their mobile service, so they already had the tyres on the van and were very unlikely to refuse to change them!

But those tyres would pass an MOT.

Wonder what brand they are, as a cheapie Chinese tyre would be much more likely to cause issues, even if mostly legal.