Police tweet aftermath of accident, blame dodgy tyres
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texaxile said:
I know a woman (no hubby) who runs her kids around in a Honda Jazz with 2 bald front tyres, I've pointed them out , told her of the risks and dangers and even offered to take the car, get them changed for trade price and return it, but she refuses saying that "it's in for a service next month".
My Mrs works in an office with a lady in her late 40's who drives a Peugeot, and she often car shares with her and they take turns to drive to work.Her car has had bald tyres for a couple of months, or at least tyres well below the limit. Someone must have noticed in the work car park because they came in the office and told her that her tyres were illegal. She just looked really embarrassed said she would get them to check it at the next service (she never gets it serviced unless it breaks down) and then made a joke about cars being so expensive to run.
Worst bit is that her husband has been a police officer for about 20 years. They both penny pinch constantly and things like tyres will definitely be at the bottom of the list until an MOT failure happens.
NinjaPower said:
They both penny pinch constantly and things like tyres will definitely be at the bottom of the list until an MOT failure happens.
I have a sister like that. Her cars never have their oil checked and anything other that what is inspected during an MOT is totally ignored. So far her laisse faire policy has led to three good cars being scrapped after their engines seized - THREE...!NinjaPower said:
texaxile said:
I know a woman (no hubby) who runs her kids around in a Honda Jazz with 2 bald front tyres, I've pointed them out , told her of the risks and dangers and even offered to take the car, get them changed for trade price and return it, but she refuses saying that "it's in for a service next month".
My Mrs works in an office with a lady in her late 40's who drives a Peugeot, and she often car shares with her and they take turns to drive to work.Her car has had bald tyres for a couple of months, or at least tyres well below the limit. Someone must have noticed in the work car park because they came in the office and told her that her tyres were illegal. She just looked really embarrassed said she would get them to check it at the next service (she never gets it serviced unless it breaks down) and then made a joke about cars being so expensive to run.
If she is caught while behind the wheel the points will go on her licence.
Even worse she might end up wrapping it round a lamp post/tree and ending up in A&E or, God forbid, the morgue.
Red Devil said:
More to the point, have you made it explicitly clear to your wife the risks she is running?
If she is caught while behind the wheel the points will go on her licence.
Even worse she might end up wrapping it round a lamp post/tree and ending up in A&E or, God forbid, the morgue.
I think his wife probably drives her own car not her friends? (I presume therefore that she would not have bald tyres)If she is caught while behind the wheel the points will go on her licence.
Even worse she might end up wrapping it round a lamp post/tree and ending up in A&E or, God forbid, the morgue.
Trabi601 said:
I've just had a battle with a leasing company for similar wear, though - modern BMWs will wear the outside edge of fronts like that for some reason - so I had tyres with a good 3-4mm on them through the inside and most of the central part of the tyre, but the extreme outside edge was bald.
The ones in the pic are bald on the inside edge, which is far harder to spot. TooMany2cvs said:
carl_w said:
SVTRick said:
Are you being serious ??
Even Stevie Wonder would fail that.
That's a definite three points.
Problem is with modern cars, big wheels, rubber band tyres filling the arches it's not so easy to see the condition on the inside edges.Even Stevie Wonder would fail that.
That's a definite three points.
Fronts - doddle. Put the steering on lock.
Rears - not hard at all. Bend down and look under the bumper.
If an MOT tester passes that he should surrender his qualification as what else would he deem fit to pass.
I noticed about 2 weeks ago that my Volvo S60 had worn the inner shoulders of the front tyres right down , and they were new tyres that I had put on it when we bought it about a year ago. I had them checked at my usual tyre place and they said they were still technically legal despite the inner shoulder having lost all the diagonal tread grooves, because the long main grooves were all still above their wear indicators.
Of course I booked it in for a geometry check (which was hugely off) and had 2 new tyres fitted , as it's the car my wife drives.
In the past year I've waved down 2 local motorists who were driving on totally flat tyres, the latest one last week where the rim was almost sitting on the ground as she waited at a junction to pull out behind me, the previous one just before she joined a dual carriageway...
Both were oblivious that one tyre was flat enough to be obvious even to someone in a passing car...
Of course I booked it in for a geometry check (which was hugely off) and had 2 new tyres fitted , as it's the car my wife drives.
In the past year I've waved down 2 local motorists who were driving on totally flat tyres, the latest one last week where the rim was almost sitting on the ground as she waited at a junction to pull out behind me, the previous one just before she joined a dual carriageway...
Both were oblivious that one tyre was flat enough to be obvious even to someone in a passing car...Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 24th March 09:40
SVTRick said:
That tyre will fail an MOT or a Roadside inspection
If an MOT tester passes that he should surrender his qualification as what else would he deem fit to pass.
If you've got a problem with that tyre passing an MOT you should take it up with the DVSA who write the rules, not an MOT tester who would correctly pass it.If an MOT tester passes that he should surrender his qualification as what else would he deem fit to pass.
Spangles said:
SVTRick said:
That tyre will fail an MOT or a Roadside inspection
If an MOT tester passes that he should surrender his qualification as what else would he deem fit to pass.
If you've got a problem with that tyre passing an MOT you should take it up with the DVSA who write the rules, not an MOT tester who would correctly pass it.If an MOT tester passes that he should surrender his qualification as what else would he deem fit to pass.
So what IS the MOT standard?
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/m...
DVSA manual said:
4.1 Reason for Rejection - The primary grooves of the tread pattern are not at least 1.6mm throughout a continuous band comprising:
• the central three-quarters of the breadth of tread, and
• round the entire outer circumference of the tyre.
Note: Each side of the central band of the tyre can be devoid of tread (i.e. ‘bald’) and still meet the pass standard. See diagram below
• the central three-quarters of the breadth of tread, and
• round the entire outer circumference of the tyre.
Note: Each side of the central band of the tyre can be devoid of tread (i.e. ‘bald’) and still meet the pass standard. See diagram below
Agreed?
On this monitor, the top edge of that tyre is 150mm wide. So the central 3/4 is the central 112.5mm, with the shoulders of 18.75mm each side being outside that. Agreed?
That circumferential groove is a primary groove. Agreed?
I make the outside edge of that inner circumferential groove to be about 20mm from the edge. So the full width of that groove is within the central 3/4. Agreed?
Now, is that groove 1.6mm or not...?
I think this is marginal. Clearly there is >1.6mm on three grooves, clearly there is <1.6mm on the inner groove so it's whether that inner groove forms part of the central 75%, which it probably does just.
Interestingly my current 265 Pzeros currently look similar to this but in their case it is legal. The PZERO has a secondary 1/2 depth groove as the first circumferal groove from the outside edge. So currently I am down to 4mm on most of the tyre but this groove is worn down giving the impression of a bald tyre.
Interestingly my current 265 Pzeros currently look similar to this but in their case it is legal. The PZERO has a secondary 1/2 depth groove as the first circumferal groove from the outside edge. So currently I am down to 4mm on most of the tyre but this groove is worn down giving the impression of a bald tyre.
TooMany2cvs said:
Agreed?
On this monitor, the top edge of that tyre is 150mm wide. So the central 3/4 is the central 112.5mm, with the shoulders of 18.75mm each side being outside that. Agreed?
That circumferential groove is a primary groove. Agreed?
I make the outside edge of that inner circumferential groove to be about 20mm from the edge. So the full width of that groove is within the central 3/4. Agreed?
Now, is that groove 1.6mm or not...?
If the result is borderline, it's a pass and advise.
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