Verge protection posts - legal?
Discussion
Tiggsy said:
At the side of my house is a grass verge 1m wide...then a road to houses behind (new build estate) then another verge next to my neighbours house. So the road runs between our two homes.
The verge is on MY land and when I mow it I've notice car tyre marks where people drive on it as the road is only really wide enough for 1 car (and they can't be bothered to wait)
So - before winter kicks in and the grass gets turned to mush I have added some simple wooden verge posts - they came with reflectors but they look rank.....neighbour thinks they HAVE to be used in case someone drives into it and sues!!!!
Its my verge....not councils, can someone drive over my land, hit my stuff and sue me?
I've got a tree on the front lawn...should I bubble wrap it?
Are there any highways rights on it? The verge is on MY land and when I mow it I've notice car tyre marks where people drive on it as the road is only really wide enough for 1 car (and they can't be bothered to wait)
So - before winter kicks in and the grass gets turned to mush I have added some simple wooden verge posts - they came with reflectors but they look rank.....neighbour thinks they HAVE to be used in case someone drives into it and sues!!!!
Its my verge....not councils, can someone drive over my land, hit my stuff and sue me?
I've got a tree on the front lawn...should I bubble wrap it?
ETA Whereabouts in the SE are you? I may have more knowledge/resources than you... If you can let me know the County at least?
Edited by OpulentBob on Tuesday 15th August 14:03
PurpleMoonlight said:
mikeveal said:
In order to claim they'd have to prove that your negligence resulted in their loss. Posts with reflectors seems like a good solution to me.
Or think of it this way, if it's your land, then you could have erected a fence or a wall, if someone demolished that wall with their car then
a/ would they be liable for repairing the wall
or
b/ would you be liable for damage to their car?
Are there not laws about fences being a certain distance from the highway?Or think of it this way, if it's your land, then you could have erected a fence or a wall, if someone demolished that wall with their car then
a/ would they be liable for repairing the wall
or
b/ would you be liable for damage to their car?
Psycho Warren said:
Thinking of putting a nice low security post in (to protect my garages full of valuable cars!) and painting them matt black.
Do the "No turning please" signs not work?? But whatever, it's your land, were the tables turned I'm sure you wouldn't be pissed off if you turned in an available space only to have your P&J dented by someone vindictive/spiteful's matt black posts. 
I had a similar issue with my front lawn, which leads down to a bend on a narrow country lane and no kerb down to the road. Regularly folks would drive across the edge of the lawn, sometimes in tractors that make a right mess. The final straw was on one Sunday morning, I came out of the front of the house to find someone had driven straight across the lawn, missing the corner of the house by a couple of feet.
A highways representative came out from the local council (in the hope of them agreeing to put in a kerb), but that came to nothing. Planning won't allow me to put up a fence or wall is it hinders visibility around the bend. In the end I resorted to the boulders as mentioned previously, painted white. I'd get in touch with the highways people, or speak to the folks building the new properties, see what they can offer.
I feel your pain OP - our house and next doors (it's a semi) share our own big gates and drive. Delivery drivers, taxis, cleaners etc etc would be forever coming in and turning round. I got sick to death of having my lawn wrecked, so I put some really quite large rocks round the edge in question. They look crap, tbh, but the number of times they've been hit and moved, or displaced the grass is quite amazing. There must be a lot of people around with scraped sills and bumpers. Not sure I'd put them on a publicly accessible verge though.
We own the lawned front garden of our house down to the kerb, modern road, no pavement. But the 1 or 1.5 m, can't remember which, adjacent to the road is reserved for the use of utilities. We're not allowed to plant anything there, and they have the right to dig it up if they want to lay cables etc. Ownership is only 9/10 of the law.
speedking31 said:
We own the lawned front garden of our house down to the kerb, modern road, no pavement. But the 1 or 1.5 m, can't remember which, adjacent to the road is reserved for the use of utilities. We're not allowed to plant anything there, and they have the right to dig it up if they want to lay cables etc. Ownership is only 9/10 of the law.
It's likely adopted highway.SantaBarbara said:
OpulentBob said:
Not within 450mm of the edge of carriageway.
Lots of people with some dodgy suggestions which may cause you more harm (cost) than good, OP. Beware.
If he put them closer than that, what is the worse thing they could do?Lots of people with some dodgy suggestions which may cause you more harm (cost) than good, OP. Beware.
Either kerb it, or plant a hedge. They aren't covered by the same rules unless there's a substantial trunk within the 450, and people avoid scraping down a hedge.
OpulentBob said:
SantaBarbara said:
OpulentBob said:
Not within 450mm of the edge of carriageway.
Lots of people with some dodgy suggestions which may cause you more harm (cost) than good, OP. Beware.
If he put them closer than that, what is the worse thing they could do?Lots of people with some dodgy suggestions which may cause you more harm (cost) than good, OP. Beware.
Either kerb it, or plant a hedge. They aren't covered by the same rules unless there's a substantial trunk within the 450, and people avoid scraping down a hedge.
many of which on Rural Roads are on the edge of the road and less than 450mm
How many times have I caught truck mirrors on trees etc while trying to keep close to the road edge.
I suggest your talking b
ks, your land put what you want on it.If some t
t driver hits it - tough st.OpulentBob said:
Do the "No turning please" signs not work?? But whatever, it's your land, were the tables turned I'm sure you wouldn't be pissed off if you turned in an available space only to have your P&J dented by someone vindictive/spiteful's matt black posts.
This only affects the sort of aholes who think it is fine to drive on other people's driveways. Who cares if their cars get damaged? They shouldn't be there. SVTRick said:
So how does that work with Trees, BT Poles, Electric Poles and Street Lamps etc etc.
many of which on Rural Roads are on the edge of the road and less than 450mm
How many times have I caught truck mirrors on trees etc while trying to keep close to the road edge.
I suggest your talking bks, your land put what you want on it.
If some tt driver hits it - tough st.
I'd suggest he is correct for new stuff.many of which on Rural Roads are on the edge of the road and less than 450mm
How many times have I caught truck mirrors on trees etc while trying to keep close to the road edge.
I suggest your talking b
ks, your land put what you want on it.If some t
t driver hits it - tough st.Stuff put into position prior to any new regulations wouldn't have to move.
SVTRick said:
OpulentBob said:
SantaBarbara said:
OpulentBob said:
Not within 450mm of the edge of carriageway.
Lots of people with some dodgy suggestions which may cause you more harm (cost) than good, OP. Beware.
If he put them closer than that, what is the worse thing they could do?Lots of people with some dodgy suggestions which may cause you more harm (cost) than good, OP. Beware.
Either kerb it, or plant a hedge. They aren't covered by the same rules unless there's a substantial trunk within the 450, and people avoid scraping down a hedge.
many of which on Rural Roads are on the edge of the road and less than 450mm
How many times have I caught truck mirrors on trees etc while trying to keep close to the road edge.
I suggest your talking b
ks, your land put what you want on it.If some t
t driver hits it - tough st.I've had private verge obstructions removed before at the land owners expense. I do this stuff for a living, someone asked about legality so I answered.
Edited by OpulentBob on Wednesday 16th August 07:23
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