RE: Did they Think! about it?

[Sparks]

Graham, I thought that was only on pedestrian crossings. Also it is the responsibility of the pedestrian to NOT step out if it is not safe to do so. i.e. there is a car coming. I may be wrong on this, as I don't have a copy of THC to hand, but that is what I base my walking/driving on. Sparks

[.mark]

I think the point nubbin was making was when they stand on the side of the road watching you come along then as you near walk out in front of you. I think if we approach a pedestrian crossing the road a way in front we would all adjust our speed accordingly (i.e. whether we liked the look of them or not ) I think it is just the way kids are now, at the risk of sounding an old git, it's the way they are dragged up. My wife teaches and believe it or not kids are not stupid they know they can get away with hell as the teachers can't do anything to them. As a point of fact she was refered to as a 'F£$%ing Wan*$ing B1tch' because she told a kid off for stealing the other day. The more of the little scrotes we splat the better as far as I am concerened. PS anyone fitted roo-bars to a Chimaera before?

[Sparks]

.mark, A bit controversial!! But I have to agree (my wife teaches too) that most 'kids' seem to have very little respect for anything these days. I look at teenagers in my wifes family and think this, but (and i'm not biased) they are well and truely at the better end of the behaviour stakes. to return to the original point, there is a great need for better road education and general attitude all round. Sparks

[Don]

quote:The more of the little scrotes we splat the better as far as I am concerened. PS anyone fitted roo-bars to a Chimaera before?

http://www.joecartoon.com/cartoons/genocide.html

[cjn]

I remember the green cross code from when I was at school, children should be better educated by parents! Excessive speed in built up areas can be dangerous but pedestrians must take some blame. CJ

[mel]

Got to change my tune a bit on this one !!!! Saturday morning at a parade of shops and a 9 year old gets run over crossing the road the kid was battered bruised and very scared but will be fine. The point is he was about 10 yards from a pelican crossing and about 20 from a GATSO. The car wasn't speeding the fact is that the little s**t just ran across the road and got clipped. Its a particulary grotty estate and the chaos that followed included about half a dozen pikey gold clown wearing women (including the mother) trying to lynch the driver and refusing to accept little Billy was in the wrong. Oh well atleast if he'd been hit harder there would be less chance of him mugging my mother in 5 years time. Edited by mel on Monday 16th July 10:49

[steve-p]

quote:Has anyone wondered if the people resposible for these campaigns put as much honest thought into the subject as is seen in this thread

If you mean Government ministers, then you can't really expect either honesty or thought to come into it.

[steve-p]

quote:The add is just trying to raise awareness which it has done

I think you will find that actually it just adds to the perception among a growing proportion of the general public that pretending all accidents are caused by speed is both condescending and insulting. Furthermore, campaigns like these which appear to be an attempt to justify the proliferation of speed cameras in areas with no history of accidents, merely reinforce popular distrust of the motives and competence of the police.

[MattC]

ITC Reply: -------------------------- DETR - Think Speed Thank you for your email of the 5th of July. I am sorry that this advertisement caused you concern. A number of viewers with a technical understanding of cars have queried aspects such as the wheel spin, etc. We have checked the advertisement and we believe that the overall safety message conveyed - which is the primary purpose of the advertisement - is quite clear. It is a dramatic portrayal, not a physics lesson, and we do not find the overall safety message to be misleading, or negated by any of the production values of the advertisement. Of course there are many factors in accidents but putting all the factors in one advertisement is more likely to obscure or confuse rather than enlighten. Thank you for taking the trouble to raise your concerns. I can quite understand that you would prefer aspects of the advertisement to be portrayed differently, but we believe that, judged as a whole, it is sufficiently accurate to be true to its purpose. Yours sincerely, Elfed Owens Advertising Complaints Officer -------------------------- So there you go. Not a bad response, I thought.