201mph indicated speed in Sussex

201mph indicated speed in Sussex

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Redline88

400 posts

107 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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NMNeil said:
SydneyBridge said:
The limiter can easily be over ridden/turned off apparently
Yes it can, but each time it is a log is kept.
"Note that the new data recorders fitted to vehicles would log the over-riding of the ISA system. It is possible that in the event of a crash this information could be available to police and possibly civil lawyers."
Interesting explanation of the system.
https://www.20splenty.org/what_is_isa
Do most cars currently for sale now not have a basic data recorder that records settings, speed etc. in the event of a crash? I’d imagine that it would have to be pretty serious for the police to go to the hassle of interrogating this and even without the ISA system, it would still show you at over the limit.

NMNeil

5,860 posts

51 months

Sunday 8th August 2021
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Redline88 said:
Do most cars currently for sale now not have a basic data recorder that records settings, speed etc. in the event of a crash? I’d imagine that it would have to be pretty serious for the police to go to the hassle of interrogating this and even without the ISA system, it would still show you at over the limit.
Far more than a simple data logger.
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/connecte...
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-tech/101706/what...
Join the dots and the police don't have to download anything, the car has already transmitted all the data they need.
Put all this together and every movement will be tracked, where you are, how fast you're driving, if you disabled the ISA repeatedly etc.

Retroman

972 posts

134 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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Mr Miata said:
Surely this is going to be dangerous for overtakes.... you’re overtake a HGV on a single carriageway road, only to hit the speed limiter and stop accelerating. All of a sudden you’re on the wrong side of the road and can’t get past the truck quick enough.
Perhaps people will start to learn to overtake legally.

MattyD803

1,731 posts

66 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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anonymous said:
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Lockdown 1 wasn't it?

Didn't he also do the whole thing single handed too? Jesus.

e-honda

8,943 posts

147 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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it says he he's pleading not guilty, not sure how they can know that, but assuming that's true then the prosecution case against him might not be that strong.
My guess is it could be like the John O'Groats and Land's End record guy. A bunch of circumstantial evidence plus some social media brags as a confession that make it obvious they did it. Then the prosecution stunned that someone might go to court and admit/claim they lied on social media.

APontus

1,935 posts

36 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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They know it because they asked for a plea at his first appearance. Pleading 'not guilty' says little at this stage about the strength of the case against him.

blue_haddock

3,267 posts

68 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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Durzel said:
LinkedIn shows he works (worked?) in the warehouse at Euro Car Parts.
no-one by that name in the ecp staff directory!

ChocolateFrog

25,635 posts

174 months

Tuesday 10th August 2021
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He looks like the kind of guy that puts glitter in his beard and orders Corn Flakes from the local cafe.

Not your typical TWOCer.

AlpinaB5

73 posts

66 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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I've cracked 200mph a few times in my Alpina which doesn't have any limiter as standard. It also has steel brakes ( huge ) so must be deemed up to the job. I certainly wouldn't consider trying to film it on a two lane Autobahn though! At that speed the car is very steady but of course there's a time and a place and I wouldn't consider doing those sort of speeds on anything but a quiet empty stretch. Despite many unlimited sections of autobahn realistically there is very few opportunities to drive at warp speeds ( at least the area I live ) as there is just too much traffic. I do feel this guy is a bit of a plonker though for filming himself but if he has pleaded not guilty then he must either have a superb lawyer or is confident it can't be proved it's him beyond reasonable doubt.

Edited by AlpinaB5 on Thursday 12th August 11:46

stitched

3,813 posts

174 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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It's interesting that the off duty police officer only managed 159mph on the M54, for which he was let off as he was 'practicing'.
wink
Perhaps a bit more 'practice' needed.

vonhosen

40,281 posts

218 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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stitched said:
It's interesting that the off duty police officer only managed 159mph on the M54, for which he was let off as he was 'practicing'.
wink
Perhaps a bit more 'practice' needed.
He was on duty & he wasn't let off. He was prosecuted.

Pica-Pica

13,881 posts

85 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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stitched said:
It's interesting that the off duty police officer only managed 159mph on the M54, for which he was let off as he was 'practicing'.
wink
Perhaps a bit more 'practice' needed.
‘Practising’

Uptownguy

6 posts

33 months

Thursday 16th September 2021
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vonhosen said:
He was on duty & he wasn't let off. He was prosecuted.
Then acquitted.

Then convicted.

Then I believe it was overturned on appeal? Not sure how it ended. But he kept his job and then smashed up squad car a few years later in a high speed pursuit. so obviously needed to practice more.


PC Milton is his name if I recall correctly and I believe is still an officer for West Mercia Constabulary.

e-honda

8,943 posts

147 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Anyone know what happened to this guy? Trial was apparently meant to happen nearly 2 years ago, but nothing new seems to have been reported.
Are there any time restrictions on this?

Tony1963

4,819 posts

163 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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helix402 said:
I suspect a spell at Her Majesty’s pleasure may await the driver:

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18467261.shocking-...
So long ago, it’ll now be His Majesty’s Pleasure…

Pit Pony

8,731 posts

122 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Solocle said:
pip t said:
Sa Calobra said:
It's a motorway where no one expects you to be doing over 70mph.

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Really?! If I'm travelling at 70mph on a motorway I'm fully expecting there to be (Many) people catching me up, sometimes with a fairly significant speed differential! While what they're doing is illegal, it's very common..... I'd have thought that the majority of British drivers are aware that people travel at faster then 70mph on the motorway.
Most people expect to be passed at 70 mph... they're probably quite prepared for the loony doing 100 mph and expecting everyone to get out of their way.

But most motorway drivers have no idea what 200 mph even looks like on the road, let alone being prepared for that speck in the distance to be a vehicle doing such speeds. There's a huge difference.
Based on driving legally at over 140 mph on the German autobahn, I can tell you that above 120 mph it becomes like a video game. You have to be looking so far ahead that as thing come closer, they flash past in your peripheral vision. I felt comfortable up to about 120 mph, but above that, I felt like the smallest error and we'd be dying in a fore ball. Some of that was down to the cars aerodynamics and some down to how the world flashed past.

I was passed last night on the M62, by a mk4 astra van doing maybe 100 mph on my left. I was doing 70 in the outside lane (lane 4) and started to move left as I saw him in my mirror, but he'd already committed to an undertake, he didn't slow, just went straight into lane 2, went between 2 cars doing about 50 and 65 mph respectively, before heading into lane 1, which became the slip road for Warrington. To say I was surprised at how quickly he appeared looming down on me, from.being just a mere spec, is an understatement. Wasn't expecting it with my temp.sensor showing minus 2.
200 mph on any road might be temping fate.

Pit Pony

8,731 posts

122 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Retroman said:
Mr Miata said:
Surely this is going to be dangerous for overtakes.... you’re overtake a HGV on a single carriageway road, only to hit the speed limiter and stop accelerating. All of a sudden you’re on the wrong side of the road and can’t get past the truck quick enough.
Perhaps people will start to learn to overtake legally.
As opposed to safely?

Regularly come up behind cars doing 40 mph on my commute. A single carriage way with a 50.mph limit, some long straights and sweeping bends. You can overtake without going over the limit. But you'd be safer going over the limit. Regularly see cars doing 35 mph, with 10 cars bunched up behind. It saddens me.

paddy1970

708 posts

110 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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e-honda said:
Anyone know what happened to this guy? Trial was apparently meant to happen nearly 2 years ago, but nothing new seems to have been reported.
Are there any time restrictions on this?
The latest available reports only detail his appearance in court and the charges against him, including aggravated vehicle-taking and dangerous driving.

It appears that the case was ongoing as of the last reported court appearances, and no further information on the trial's conclusion or verdict is currently available in the public domain.

e-honda

8,943 posts

147 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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paddy1970 said:
The latest available reports only detail his appearance in court and the charges against him, including aggravated vehicle-taking and dangerous driving.

It appears that the case was ongoing as of the last reported court appearances, and no further information on the trial's conclusion or verdict is currently available in the public domain.
What does that mean?
No reporter happened to notice it or something secretive about it?

Short Grain

2,818 posts

221 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Pit Pony said:
Based on driving legally at over 140 mph on the German autobahn, I can tell you that above 120 mph it becomes like a video game. You have to be looking so far ahead that as thing come closer, they flash past in your peripheral vision. I felt comfortable up to about 120 mph, but above that, I felt like the smallest error and we'd be dying in a fore ball Some of that was down to the cars aerodynamics and some down to how the world flashed past.

I was passed last night on the M62, by a mk4 astra van doing maybe 100 mph on my left. I was doing 70 in the outside lane (lane 4) and started to move left as I saw him in my mirror, but he'd already committed to an undertake, he didn't slow, just went straight into lane 2, went between 2 cars doing about 50 and 65 mph respectively, before heading into lane 1, which became the slip road for Warrington. To say I was surprised at how quickly he appeared looming down on me, from.being just a mere spec, is an understatement. Wasn't expecting it with my temp.sensor showing minus 2.
200 mph on any road might be temping fate.
Yeah, I've heard four balls in golf can be a bit contentious wink



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