Just been road raged!
Discussion
"Keeping up with the Jones's" in society puts uneeded pressure on some people,these days ,especially in the south east theres a bit of a mix up going on and IMO we are losing family values and society is becoming very superfiacial so how good we are as a person is being mixed up with how succesful we are.
Not only have you got the "Haves" and "Have nots" but youve also got the the "Trying to haves"....man there's a lot of resentment going on.
Not only have you got the "Haves" and "Have nots" but youve also got the the "Trying to haves"....man there's a lot of resentment going on.
He perceives that you did something wrong and obviously you don’t.
It could be he misread the signs, thought he had right of way when he didn’t and therefore feels you cut him up. The opposite could also be true, you could have misread the signs (just being objective, not meant as a criticism)
Everybody makes mistakes from time to time, it’s human nature.
How you react to a situation reflects on your personality. An arsehole would want to fight, a decant bloke rise above it and walk away
It could be he misread the signs, thought he had right of way when he didn’t and therefore feels you cut him up. The opposite could also be true, you could have misread the signs (just being objective, not meant as a criticism)
Everybody makes mistakes from time to time, it’s human nature.
How you react to a situation reflects on your personality. An arsehole would want to fight, a decant bloke rise above it and walk away
russian rocket said:
How you react to a situation reflects on your personality. An arsehole would want to fight, a decant bloke rise above it and walk away
I'd have to disagree there. Being prepared to defend your position does not make you an arsehole. Deciding to wade in from the off with either fists or gob wide open probably does, but standing up for yourself in the face of provocation is subtly different.
No offence RR, not just you, but I'm seeing a lot of sweeping generalisations in posts on PH...think we need a generalisation moderator on here!
havoc said:
Anger is definitely on the increase in society...and there are a whole load of reasons, too many and varied to list here.
I wonder if some of anger ist due to technology
I mean - I see people get all lathered up if computer does not produce instant result at one click. Und I have seen people pace floor looking at watches over the microwave instant ready (ist food the right word for this c
p?) but anyway.... they pace flooor looking at watches... 
I find it amusing - but then I have brought meal which I made myselfe und nothing ist more relaxing than pottering in kitchen und sharing cooking und washing up mit husband und ist kind of foreplay for later 
Ist perhaps why some do not find it possible to enjoy drive und choose safest speed for occasion. I drive fast on occasion... but not OTT in UK - buit admit to driving above limit on the motoway but within 85th percentile und have noted potential scamsites in advance
und my fast speed ist used on track und in Germany havoc said:
...but it's not good enough...and the police don't take the little stuff seriously anymore.
Ist true
..und anger ist form of "disturbing the peace" Ist perhaps due to lack of manners in society as well. Und frustration over dead end jobs und threat of unemployment und taking job beneath capabilities ist just as stressful as taking on more than one can cope with.. nicht?
must be something about driving in Hertfordshire. Only today, I was making my way into Hitchin town centre after coming off the a602, and was making my way round the roundabout minding my own business, when a bloody ford escort comes barrelling round the roundabout the wrong way round,towards me on my side of the road and even having the temirity to indicate the way he was going.
Damn near shat myself. Q lots of left lock and lots of sweat...didnt hit him though.
Damn near shat myself. Q lots of left lock and lots of sweat...didnt hit him though.
2 of my brothers were on their way home when some bell end took offence at something and started agressively following them.
They made a quick call home, and then lead the aforementioned numpty back, without him realising he was heading into a dead end.
Upon arrival, all of the people assembled in the garden for a BBQ piled out brandishing whatever was to hand. The look on the blokes face was priceless. We didn't need to do anything. My brother just went up to his window and asked him to apologise for being a fool, which he duly did.
He then drove off in a much more subdued manner.
They made a quick call home, and then lead the aforementioned numpty back, without him realising he was heading into a dead end.
Upon arrival, all of the people assembled in the garden for a BBQ piled out brandishing whatever was to hand. The look on the blokes face was priceless. We didn't need to do anything. My brother just went up to his window and asked him to apologise for being a fool, which he duly did.
He then drove off in a much more subdued manner.
WildCat said:
Und frustration over dead end jobs und threat of unemployment und taking job beneath capabilities ist just as stressful as taking on more than one can cope with.. nicht?
Very funny you should say that...I've just handed my notice in after being given a job "beneath me"...thought it was them trying to get rid of me, but no, just the wheels of the bureaucracy turning...surprisingly the first couple of months in the job (until I mentally "gave up" and knew I was going to go, regardless) were the most stressful ever. Was rather ratty with Becs and even with friends, didn't mean to be, just soooo frustrated and bored.
Now...I'm going to what's likely to be a difficult job, and I'm on
!havoc said:
How you react to a situation reflects on your personality. An arsehole would want to fight, a decant bloke rise above it and walk away
I'd have to disagree there. Being prepared to defend your position does not make you an arsehole. Deciding to wade in from the off with either fists or gob wide open probably does, but standing up for yourself in the face of provocation is subtly different.
No offence RR, not just you, but I'm seeing a lot of sweeping generalisations in posts on PH...think we need a generalisation moderator on here!
So you think the van driver was right to do what he did then on the basis he is defending his position?
saying somebody who wades in fists first is an arsehole is a generalisation I will stand by. There is a difference beteween defending your postition (like me now) and being an arsehole
I'll see you outside jimmy
How come you only noticed him when you were stopped....surely he didn't come from nowhere. Are you sure you were paying attention to all the road.... Just because you didn't notice you cutting him up doesn't mean you didn't.
Of course the guy could just be a TW*T of the highest order but if someones reacted like that to my driving i've normally done something to them. Now I might have only been wrong in their eyes! But SOMETHING would have happened (even if you did nothing wrong), and if you didn't notice it then are you sure you were paying attention?
Of course the guy could just be a TW*T of the highest order but if someones reacted like that to my driving i've normally done something to them. Now I might have only been wrong in their eyes! But SOMETHING would have happened (even if you did nothing wrong), and if you didn't notice it then are you sure you were paying attention?
Munter said:
Of course the guy could just be a TW*T of the highest order but if someones reacted like that to my driving i've normally done something to them.
Chop in your car for a Boxster or 996 Cab. Drive it around just as you do your current motor for a bit.
Trust me - you will then know what I mean...all that Ed needed to be doing was driving the car. Just being there can be more than enough.
You have to had had one for a while to believe it. Really.
P.S. You may be thinking - ahah! Don must drive like a tool, too! Believe me, I don't. I have IAM passes, a Rospa Gold grading and I'm DETERMINED to keep my beautiful car pristine by not winding anyone up...and still it happens from time to time...
Part and parcel of owning the car, I'm afraid. They're really cool, though, and I recommend them to anyone. But you need to be prepared to face some pretty disgraceful abuse from time to time.
Don said:
Of course the guy could just be a TW*T of the highest order but if someones reacted like that to my driving i've normally done something to them.
Chop in your car for a Boxster or 996 Cab. Drive it around just as you do your current motor for a bit.
But why would I chop in a small 2 seater open top sports car for another small 2 seater open top sports car?
I didn't mean to imply the original posters driving was definately at fault. Just that it would be normal to see what upsets the angry twit in the 1st place. Many a time i've been within my rights nd peeved someone because it's a "sports car".
ZR1cliff said:
"Keeping up with the Jones's" in society puts uneeded pressure on some people,these days ,especially in the south east theres a bit of a mix up going on and IMO we are losing family values and society is becoming very superfiacial so how good we are as a person is being mixed up with how succesful we are.
Not only have you got the "Haves" and "Have nots" but youve also got the the "Trying to haves"....man there's a lot of resentment going on.
Before I left the chemical industry in 1972 I used to work with a chap who blamed the advertising sector for a lot of our ills. 'Unless you fly BOAC (as it then was) and drive an E-type Jaguar you're not a success' he said, claiming that this exacerbated divisions in society.
At that time I strongly disagreed with Eric about that, but as he died many years ago I am unable to go and tell him I think he was right after all.
Meanwhile the advertising people have become a great deal more cunning and influential, so it is now even easier to be discontent with what we have.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
I had one of these on Thursday (in Herts again) Shirtless inbred in the passenger seat of a Renault van wound down the window in a jam at a roundabout and said "Why didn't you get a decent one?" I asked him which model of TVR he drove. He laughed and muttered something to his hairy knuckled mates in the van. I wasn't in the mood to engage in such highbrow banter so I just shrugged, laughed and blasted off up the next dual carriageway.
Envious ters to a man. Just rise above and enjoy the fruits of your hard work. 
Envious t
ers to a man. Just rise above and enjoy the fruits of your hard work. havoc said:
Anger is definitely on the increase in society...and there are a whole load of reasons, too many and varied to list here.
One of the main culprits is the chemicals we call food these days, most of it has enough e numbers to get you climbing the curtains after one ding of the microwave, and the less well off eat the more chemically enhanced......
russian rocket said:
So you think the van driver was right to do what he did then on the basis he is defending his position?
saying somebody who wades in fists first is an arsehole is a generalisation I will stand by. There is a difference beteween defending your postition (like me now) and being an arsehole
I'll see you outside jimmy
RR, you misunderstand. I agree with you that the van driver sounds like a complete tw@t. And I thought I'd said myself that those who wade in fist-first ARE arseholes.
I was just trying to say that you don't have to always walk away to be a decent person...I can think of a couple of occasions where I haven't let stuff slide (both times the "stuff" has been aimed at women, not at me, one was physical), and I'd like to think I'm a decent bloke.
"Turning the other cheek" is a philosophy I don't agree with. Sun Tsu...now there's a philosophy I can agree with!!!
Oh - apache - I'd laugh, if it wasn't almost certainly true...and consequently self-fulfilling on their part! There're times you really could turn socialist, there really are!!!
Munter said:
How come you only noticed him when you were stopped....surely he didn't come from nowhere. Are you sure you were paying attention to all the road.... Just because you didn't notice you cutting him up doesn't mean you didn't.
..........and if you didn't notice it then are you sure you were paying attention?
I can only surmise that he joined the road from a side turning after I'd passed.
Personally I suspect that Don may have the answer here. Nice car, hot MrsEd22, balding driver (that's me!).........must have caused something to shortcircuit in his head. I don't know.
Seems that its kind of hard to convince people here without video evidence, but please take my word for it!!!
Let me make it clear. I did nothing wrong, inconsiderate, dangerous etc. Excellent visibility, very low traffic density. Even Transport2000 would have approved of my driving that day. (well, apart from the Porsche bit!)
TBH The point of my post was 'why do people behave like this' rather than generate lots of speculation as to what I did to deserve it!!
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