Blanket 20mph limit across Wales from 2023

[Byker28i]

BoRED S2upid said:

Byker28i said:

Basically what everyone was saying right at the start. No problem with 20mph areas in places such as around schools at appropriate times, like they do in England, but reducing almost 35% of wales roads to 20mph was ludicrous

It’s 20 past schools all the time here (England) I have no issue with that it’s sensible not just at 3:30.

Maybe in your bit? I know parts that have 20 at school times when the lights are flashing, or in certain hours

[Byker28i]

DodgyGeezer said:

turbobloke said:

monthou said:

Evanivitch said:

How many of those 500,000 signatures were in Conwy? Answer, not many

They're probably on the way.

Delayed. 20mph limits.

should've just left earlier

But the Senedd said they'd only be delayed for 1 minute...

[bigothunter]

Byker28i said:

But the Senedd said they'd only be delayed for 1 minute...

Surely a child's life is worth 1 minute of your time

[bigothunter]

BBC News said:

Crash boy's life saved by 20mph limit, says mum

A mother whose son was left seriously injured after he was hit by a car believes the 20mph limit saved his life.

The 11-year-old, named Ioan, was left with a double fracture to his pelvis, deep cuts to his face, knees, back and elbow and needed three stitches to his lower lip after the crash on Monday.

Mum Rhiannon, from Holywell, Flintshire, said the youngster could have been killed if the vehicle had been going faster.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ejpnkvqd5o

[Evanivitch]

oakdale said:

The people who signed the petition aren't the sort of folk that go on demonstrations, they're just ordinary people who want to get on with their lives without being impeded by WG stupidity.

Too lazy to protest, too lazy to read a manifesto, too lazy to vote?

[bigothunter]

Evanivitch said:

oakdale said:

The people who signed the petition aren't the sort of folk that go on demonstrations, they're just ordinary people who want to get on with their lives without being impeded by WG stupidity.

Too lazy to protest, too lazy to read a manifesto, too lazy to vote?

Drakeford and Waters aren't laughing so loud. Political pygmies

[Evanivitch]

bigothunter said:

Drakeford and Waters aren't laughing so loud. Political pygmies

Drakeford is laughing all the way to his allotment and chalet

[RSTurboPaul]

bigothunter said:

BBC News said:

Crash boy's life saved by 20mph limit, says mum

A mother whose son was left seriously injured after he was hit by a car believes the 20mph limit saved his life.

The 11-year-old, named Ioan, was left with a double fracture to his pelvis, deep cuts to his face, knees, back and elbow and needed three stitches to his lower lip after the crash on Monday.

Mum Rhiannon, from Holywell, Flintshire, said the youngster could have been killed if the vehicle had been going faster.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ejpnkvqd5o

What if the driver wasn't paying attention because they were so bored and they would have missed the child if they'd been doing 30mph and actually looking at the road ahead?

[DodgyGeezer]

Evanivitch said:

oakdale said:

The people who signed the petition aren't the sort of folk that go on demonstrations, they're just ordinary people who want to get on with their lives without being impeded by WG stupidity.

Too lazy to protest, too lazy to read a manifesto, too lazy to vote?

meh - let's be thankful that they CBA to protest seeing as peaceful protests can end up like this...

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6IY9abOTG_/

[carlo996]

Evanivitch said:

Too lazy to protest, too lazy to read a manifesto, too lazy to vote?

I’d vote for anyone who built a massive wall across Wales and gave them independence

[Stella Tortoise]

I wonder if Dodgy Geezer and Bigothunter have ever been seen in the same room?

[bigothunter]

Evanivitch said:

Drakeford is laughing all the way to his allotment and chalet

Just sooner than anticipated after Keir Starmer had a word

[bigothunter]

Stella Tortoise said:

I wonder if Dodgy Geezer and Bigothunter have ever been seen in the same room?

Providing you aren't there, we'll be fine

[bigothunter]

RSTurboPaul said:

bigothunter said:

BBC News said:

Crash boy's life saved by 20mph limit, says mum

A mother whose son was left seriously injured after he was hit by a car believes the 20mph limit saved his life.

The 11-year-old, named Ioan, was left with a double fracture to his pelvis, deep cuts to his face, knees, back and elbow and needed three stitches to his lower lip after the crash on Monday.

Mum Rhiannon, from Holywell, Flintshire, said the youngster could have been killed if the vehicle had been going faster.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ejpnkvqd5o

What if the driver wasn't paying attention because they were so bored and they would have missed the child if they'd been doing 30mph and actually looking at the road ahead?

What if the 11-year-old child wasn't paying attention and simply ran out into the driver's path?

[RSTurboPaul]

bigothunter said:

RSTurboPaul said:

bigothunter said:

BBC News said:

Crash boy's life saved by 20mph limit, says mum

A mother whose son was left seriously injured after he was hit by a car believes the 20mph limit saved his life.

The 11-year-old, named Ioan, was left with a double fracture to his pelvis, deep cuts to his face, knees, back and elbow and needed three stitches to his lower lip after the crash on Monday.

Mum Rhiannon, from Holywell, Flintshire, said the youngster could have been killed if the vehicle had been going faster.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ejpnkvqd5o

What if the driver wasn't paying attention because they were so bored and they would have missed the child if they'd been doing 30mph and actually looking at the road ahead?

What if the 11-year-old child wasn't paying attention and simply ran out into the driver's path?

It is always the driver's fault, you should know that by now

[bigothunter]

RSTurboPaul said:

It is always the driver's fault, you should know that by now

If we are going to accommodate the erratic actions of irresponsible pedestrians especially children, then 20mph is too fast. We need a 10mph speed limit.

[DodgyGeezer]

bigothunter said:

Stella Tortoise said:

I wonder if Dodgy Geezer and Bigothunter have ever been seen in the same room?

Providing you aren't there, we'll be fine

[RSTurboPaul]

bigothunter said:

RSTurboPaul said:

It is always the driver's fault, you should know that by now

If we are going to accommodate the erratic actions of irresponsible pedestrians especially children, then 20mph is too fast. We need a 10mph speed limit.

10mph!

Maniac.

What we need is someone walking in front waving a red flag. Just to be sure.

[turbobloke]

RSTurboPaul said:

bigothunter said:

RSTurboPaul said:

It is always the driver's fault, you should know that by now

If we are going to accommodate the erratic actions of irresponsible pedestrians especially children, then 20mph is too fast. We need a 10mph speed limit.

10mph!

Maniac.

What we need is someone walking in front waving a red flag. Just to be sure.

2mph, they knew best in 1895.

[RSTurboPaul]

turbobloke said:

RSTurboPaul said:

bigothunter said:

RSTurboPaul said:

It is always the driver's fault, you should know that by now

If we are going to accommodate the erratic actions of irresponsible pedestrians especially children, then 20mph is too fast. We need a 10mph speed limit.

10mph!

Maniac.

What we need is someone walking in front waving a red flag. Just to be sure.

2mph, they knew best in 1895.

Some might say it would be futuristic for Wales