Over $3.00 a gallon in America........
Discussion
Cooperman said:
We may not like the cost of fuel, but are we really so hard done by compared with 40 years ago?
The major difference of course being that an awfull lot of people use their cars to commute fairly large distances, something not very common in the 60's. The average anual mileage in the UK is what, about 12k? Be interesting to know what it was in the 60's.
If they stopped the outrageous taxing of the fuel tax, the price would fall by 10.6p/litre straight away.
JonRB said:
Yeah, but come on. The Americans aren't used to paying those kind of prices so it is a big deal for them.
Absolutely. Its not the raw cost that the pain, its the fact that it has risen by nearly $1 in a year - thats a hefty increase in a short period of time and since its so short, its in the mind of everyone who uses "gas". Since thats just about everyone, its an obvious increase.
On the other hand, we have seen the increase as a gradual process. Its not as sharp and as a result people can adapt or change their car. So its not as bad.... well its all relative at least.
as one of the 60 + Se7ens doing the USA2005 event (starting in Texas Thursday), we are a bit disappointed in the higher fuel price. but when one converts $3.00 to £ we're only paying £ 1.63 per gallon, or about £ 41.2p/litre 
stick that in your
2jags and burn it 
>> Edited by Steve-B on Saturday 10th September 15:14
stick that in your
2jags and burn it >> Edited by Steve-B on Saturday 10th September 15:14
I found this, for those still interested:
WORLD PETROL PRICES
Austria: 75
Belgium: 95.2
Czech Republic: 71.8
Denmark: 92.2
Estonia: 59.8
Finland: 89.6
France: 85.2
Germany: 90
Greece: 65.7
Netherlands: 100.9
Hungary: 84
Ireland: 74.2
Italy: 87.3
Luxembourg: 76.6
Norway: 95
Latvia: 59.6
Lithuania: 62.3
Poland: 79.7
Portugal: 85.9
Slovakia: 69.1
Slovenia: 67.8
Spain: 72.3
Sweden: 89.5
Switzerland: 72.1
...and last and least
America: 37.9
www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1195661,00.html
WORLD PETROL PRICES
Austria: 75
Belgium: 95.2
Czech Republic: 71.8
Denmark: 92.2
Estonia: 59.8
Finland: 89.6
France: 85.2
Germany: 90
Greece: 65.7
Netherlands: 100.9
Hungary: 84
Ireland: 74.2
Italy: 87.3
Luxembourg: 76.6
Norway: 95
Latvia: 59.6
Lithuania: 62.3
Poland: 79.7
Portugal: 85.9
Slovakia: 69.1
Slovenia: 67.8
Spain: 72.3
Sweden: 89.5
Switzerland: 72.1
...and last and least
America: 37.9
www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1195661,00.html
Yep - the rest of the world subsidises Americas petrol prices and always has done so.
Yep - watch for increase in insurance (all forms thereof) prices in the rest of the world as a result of hurricane Katrina in the heartlands of America.
Yep - its gunna be a shocker!
Yep!
Yep - keep in mind that a section of China was devastated as badly or more so by a nameless typhoon during the same period of Katrina.
Yep - and the media coverage was abysmal - 1 column inch in the national paper.
Yep - and the insurance premiums will NOT rise as a result thereof.
Yep!
Yep!
Yep - watch for increase in insurance (all forms thereof) prices in the rest of the world as a result of hurricane Katrina in the heartlands of America.
Yep - its gunna be a shocker!
Yep!
Yep - keep in mind that a section of China was devastated as badly or more so by a nameless typhoon during the same period of Katrina.
Yep - and the media coverage was abysmal - 1 column inch in the national paper.
Yep - and the insurance premiums will NOT rise as a result thereof.
Yep!
Yep!
Course, the real problem for America isnt the rise in price or the eventual stable price of fuel. Its the incipient and damned near foreordained problem of violence at the petrol pumps - which has occurred before over there with much lower price increases.
I think we can take the behaviour patterns arising from the recent hurricane as indicitive of those patterns that WILL arise when the price of petrol reaches that of the rest of the world. Gunna be bloodbath if the hurricane is anything to go on.
Dont believe me? Look back in the archives for data from the (massive) price increases caused by the oil embargo during the 70's.
I think we can take the behaviour patterns arising from the recent hurricane as indicitive of those patterns that WILL arise when the price of petrol reaches that of the rest of the world. Gunna be bloodbath if the hurricane is anything to go on.
Dont believe me? Look back in the archives for data from the (massive) price increases caused by the oil embargo during the 70's.
Quote "senator threatened to sue the garage owner unless he could provide a good reason as to why... "
Since when does a Senator, a person who makes the law, become a person who enforces the law. Doesn't the senator know their place society? Or are we seeing another example of interference by power hungry people with ego's that are fairly disfunctional. Doesnt this strike directly at the american constitution under freedom of trade? Good god, sir, its as bad as giving the vote to the south.
As far as the details allow, I dont see el Senator having any luck at changing the prices other than at making a complete jerk of himself. What has the garage owner done thats wrong within the american ethic? He bought something and now he is selling it. Its pure americanism, capitalism complete - screw everybody and the devil take the hindmost, sir!.
It would be laughed out of court over here because the senator would have no standing whatsoever other than the normal seller/buyer contract.
Since when does a Senator, a person who makes the law, become a person who enforces the law. Doesn't the senator know their place society? Or are we seeing another example of interference by power hungry people with ego's that are fairly disfunctional. Doesnt this strike directly at the american constitution under freedom of trade? Good god, sir, its as bad as giving the vote to the south.
As far as the details allow, I dont see el Senator having any luck at changing the prices other than at making a complete jerk of himself. What has the garage owner done thats wrong within the american ethic? He bought something and now he is selling it. Its pure americanism, capitalism complete - screw everybody and the devil take the hindmost, sir!.
It would be laughed out of court over here because the senator would have no standing whatsoever other than the normal seller/buyer contract.
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