Major fault- Dealer saying write off

Major fault- Dealer saying write off

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sidekickdmr

5,076 posts

206 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Have you spoken to the supplying dealer in Newcastle, mentioned the wet EGR and light on purchase and pushed for a return to them as supplied with fault?

freedman

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5,416 posts

207 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Ok, latest update, and closure, in the main

Dealer rang yesterday, said they had dried the car out, and replaced the NSR door seal, and an electrical connector under the seat (OFM?)

The car was starting and driving with no faults recorded. However they jet washed the car multiple times, and could not confirm where the water ingress had been from, but it was not coming from the door seal (now, at least) said they would leave it overnight and check it again this morning to make sure all ok, and we could then pick it up.

We collected the car this morning, and at present all seems well, it runs and drives without issue. They also fixed the issue with the NSR wheel arch liner, which now sits correctly against the wing. Looks like a fixing was missing.

Negatives, whilst they did not charge for labour they charged for the parts (about (£130.00 inc vat) and whilst that’s a rather better position than a week ago, I dont believe he should have had to pay, even if the dealer offered it as good will, especially with the nonsense spouted by they service advisor about contacting the insurers and a potential write off.

Rear floor passenger side is still pretty wet, so I got some out with a wet vac thing, hopefully it will dry out and the cause has been resolved even if they couldn’t pinpoint it. Dealer said the colour and smell of the water suggested it had been present for an extended period, potentially back to before purchase.

He has written to Volvo customer services with the complaint

Would like to thank all of those who posted information and suggestions, and those that PMd me with further assistance, all very much appreciated

I will update if and when he gets a response from Volvo


Octoposse

2,160 posts

185 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Do you have a garage or driveway?

If so, well worth leaving a mains dehumidifier running in the car until the carpet is dry. Also a few good runs with heater on full and back windows open (or aircon on if the weather’s crap). No mats over the damp part.

Otherwise it can take forever to dry out at this time of year.

NRG1976

974 posts

10 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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freedman said:
Ok, latest update, and closure, in the main

Dealer rang yesterday, said they had dried the car out, and replaced the NSR door seal, and an electrical connector under the seat (OFM?)

The car was starting and driving with no faults recorded. However they jet washed the car multiple times, and could not confirm where the water ingress had been from, but it was not coming from the door seal (now, at least) said they would leave it overnight and check it again this morning to make sure all ok, and we could then pick it up.

We collected the car this morning, and at present all seems well, it runs and drives without issue. They also fixed the issue with the NSR wheel arch liner, which now sits correctly against the wing. Looks like a fixing was missing.

Negatives, whilst they did not charge for labour they charged for the parts (about (£130.00 inc vat) and whilst that’s a rather better position than a week ago, I dont believe he should have had to pay, even if the dealer offered it as good will, especially with the nonsense spouted by they service advisor about contacting the insurers and a potential write off.

Rear floor passenger side is still pretty wet, so I got some out with a wet vac thing, hopefully it will dry out and the cause has been resolved even if they couldn’t pinpoint it. Dealer said the colour and smell of the water suggested it had been present for an extended period, potentially back to before purchase.

He has written to Volvo customer services with the complaint

Would like to thank all of those who posted information and suggestions, and those that PMd me with further assistance, all very much appreciated

I will update if and when he gets a response from Volvo
Thanks for the update and sounds like fairly good outcome given the circumstances. Once dried, best to keep a close eye on it after rain or a drive when the road surface is wet. Worth also pursuing through Volvo as you are doing, if this does stem back to the original issue then they have some serious recompense to do!

DodgyGeezer

40,453 posts

190 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Octoposse said:
Do you have a garage or driveway?

If so, well worth leaving a mains dehumidifier running in the car until the carpet is dry. Also a few good runs with heater on full and back windows open (or aircon on if the weather’s crap). No mats over the damp part.

Otherwise it can take forever to dry out at this time of year.
would a few bags of silicon demist bags might also help?

Canon_Fodder

1,770 posts

63 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Well done OP that's a relief.

Worrying that the service advisor could tell you such rubbish in the first place.

BertBert

19,040 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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wow, what a tale. Gone from not economical to repair to we've dried it out and it's fine!

What utter muppets

freedman

Original Poster:

5,416 posts

207 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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DodgyGeezer said:
would a few bags of silicon demist bags might also help?
Yep I’ve got one of those box type ones in there for him to help

freedman

Original Poster:

5,416 posts

207 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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BertBert said:
wow, what a tale. Gone from not economical to repair to we've dried it out and it's fine!

What utter muppets
Indeed, maybe had these noir advisor been involved from the beginning maybe I wouldn’t have needed to start this thread!

Other bloke shouldn’t have anything to do with cars ever, as he’s clearly totally lacking in knowledge

Mikebentley

6,107 posts

140 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Sounds like the correct outcome. I would be inclined to lift the carpets and get in there with the micro fibre towels and a hairdryer. I’ve got a dog grooming blower off EBay. It’s about £30 and is identical to car detailing blowers all bar the branding which are £100+. It has variable heat and speed settings which work brilliantly to dry carpet etc.

havoc

30,069 posts

235 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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If the car was purchased from a main dealer, was it purchased under an 'approved' scheme of some kind?

...and if so, whilst acknowledging that "checking for water damage" is unlikely to be part of the list of checks, is there some moral comeback against Volvo themselves, given that the water damage was 'likely there pre-purchase'. I'm thinking mainly precautionary protection against future bills of unknown size, rather than worrying about £130 of parts.

arguti

1,774 posts

186 months

Monday 1st January
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Octoposse said:
Do you have a garage or driveway?

If so, well worth leaving a mains dehumidifier running in the car until the carpet is dry. Also a few good runs with heater on full and back windows open (or aircon on if the weather’s crap). No mats over the damp part.

Otherwise it can take forever to dry out at this time of year.
This is good advice - a decent desiccant dehumidifier will pull out at least 5-8 litres out overnight. Well worth the £200 or so investment - you can then use it for drying laundry overnight indoors !

Please note: You wife will initially laugh at you and then thank you later!

irc

7,308 posts

136 months

Monday 1st January
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arguti said:
This is good advice - a decent desiccant dehumidifier will pull out at least 5-8 litres out overnight. Well worth the £200 or so investment - you can then use it for drying laundry overnight indoors !

Please note: You wife will initially laugh at you and then thank you later!
As above. Good advice. Note - has to be the dessicant type as they work a low temps I bought this one for shed and attic use in Oct. Works well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B077T6TL3V/

woodypup59

614 posts

152 months

Monday 1st January
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I don't know if Volvo are still linked to Ford but the last few Fords I've had have had similar problems with wet rear carpets.
The rear vents have been ok.
No trouble with rear lights filling up either.
But they've all had various tooling / assembly holes around the rear wheel arch or rear footwell badly sealed or no sealant at all.
At the first sign of misting up I pull out all the trim,rear seats and rear carpets and get going with the tiger seal.

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Monday 1st January
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irc said:
arguti said:
This is good advice - a decent desiccant dehumidifier will pull out at least 5-8 litres out overnight. Well worth the £200 or so investment - you can then use it for drying laundry overnight indoors !

Please note: You wife will initially laugh at you and then thank you later!
As above. Good advice. Note - has to be the dessicant type as they work a low temps I bought this one for shed and attic use in Oct. Works well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B077T6TL3V/
Second this. Bought one in December to replace a compressor-type one, pulls 5l/day minimum as it often fills faster than you can get to it to empty it. I need to stick it into my TT which is damp now :/

OutInTheShed

7,604 posts

26 months

Monday 1st January
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irc said:
As above. Good advice. Note - has to be the dessicant type as they work a low temps I bought this one for shed and attic use in Oct. Works well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B077T6TL3V/
If you want to dry out some thing which is seriously wet, then you need to warm it up to the point where a compressor type dehumidifier will work fine.
Below 10 deg C, the damp in the carpets will only evaporate very slowly.
If you're buying one specially, then go for a dessicant, but if you have access to a compressor type, add a low-level heat source and crack on.
The dehumidifier will use 200W upwards, so add some warmth anyway.

defblade

7,435 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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If you buy a Meaco, just make sure you keep all the packaging. They are apparently funny about warranty claims if you don't (tho ours is fine after a year or so, so far... touch wood).

georgeyboy12345

3,515 posts

35 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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freedman said:
Ok, latest update, and closure, in the main

Dealer rang yesterday, said they had dried the car out, and replaced the NSR door seal, and an electrical connector under the seat (OFM?)

The car was starting and driving with no faults recorded. However they jet washed the car multiple times, and could not confirm where the water ingress had been from, but it was not coming from the door seal (now, at least) said they would leave it overnight and check it again this morning to make sure all ok, and we could then pick it up.

We collected the car this morning, and at present all seems well, it runs and drives without issue. They also fixed the issue with the NSR wheel arch liner, which now sits correctly against the wing. Looks like a fixing was missing.

Negatives, whilst they did not charge for labour they charged for the parts (about (£130.00 inc vat) and whilst that’s a rather better position than a week ago, I dont believe he should have had to pay, even if the dealer offered it as good will, especially with the nonsense spouted by they service advisor about contacting the insurers and a potential write off.

Rear floor passenger side is still pretty wet, so I got some out with a wet vac thing, hopefully it will dry out and the cause has been resolved even if they couldn’t pinpoint it. Dealer said the colour and smell of the water suggested it had been present for an extended period, potentially back to before purchase.

He has written to Volvo customer services with the complaint

Would like to thank all of those who posted information and suggestions, and those that PMd me with further assistance, all very much appreciated

I will update if and when he gets a response from Volvo
I’d be looking to get shot of this car if I were in that position. Part ex it for something else.

Have you done a VCheck on this car? Are there any salvage records on it?

freedman

Original Poster:

5,416 posts

207 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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georgeyboy12345 said:
I’d be looking to get shot of this car if I were in that position. Part ex it for something else.

Have you done a VCheck on this car? Are there any salvage records on it?
Car is clean from that POV, nothing recorded

He is planning to change it as soon as he can

Sticks.

8,753 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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freedman said:
DodgyGeezer said:
would a few bags of silicon demist bags might also help?
Yep I’ve got one of those box type ones in there for him to help
A tray of cat litter works well and cheaper, changed regularly. But don't let the cat in there.