Hit by a coach

[GasEngineer]

NikBartlett said:

We got the damage fixed out of our own pocket rather than claiming as calculated that the insurance company would just extract the money back through increased premiums.

Didn't they increase the premium anyway* - even if you made no claim? You may as well have claimed for the repair.

• As Sheepshanks says upthread.

[DKL]

Well that brought a few interesting comments.
I use that junction every day and it's not remotely tight, there have been buses, coaches, artics etc and oddly no one else has hit me. Just one of those things. I'm not entirely sure where else I should have stopped, other than where the white lines dictate.
Anyway the coach co have been up front and honest, accepting responsibly and I'm waiting for the part to arrive at the local MB dealer. I'll fit it as it's both easier for me and less costly for the coach co, who did offer to fit it for me.
Thanks all.

Edited by DKL on Saturday 24th February 22:38

[Greendubber]

DKL said:

Well that brought a few interesting comments.
I use that junction every day and it's not remotely tight, there have been buses, coaches, artics etc and oddly no one else has hit me. Just one of those things. I'm not entirely sure where else I should have stopped, other than where the white lines dictate.
Anyway the coach co have been up front and honest, accepting responsibly and I'm waiting for the part to arrive at the local MB dealer. I'll fit it as it's both easier for me and less costly for the coach co, who did offer to fit it for me.
Thanks all.

Edited by DKL on Saturday 24th February 22:38

Great result all round then

[dave123456]

Pica-Pica said:

B'stard Child said:

Pica-Pica said:

I don’t see this as the coach driver’s fault. It would seem obvious to me that you give them enough space for that ‘swing’.

Two lines of traffic waiting for lights to change - left and straight on goes first - right turn lane held until right turn is allowed - where would you suggest the OP put his car to avoid being hit??

Behind the coach or in front of the rear axle. It seems very poor road awareness by OP. But, hey, ho, legality and common sense do sometimes clash.

And if the coach arrives after? Politely go and ask everyone behind you to reverse a bit?

Rather sanctimonious response.

[Pica-Pica]

dave123456 said:

Pica-Pica said:

B'stard Child said:

Pica-Pica said:

I don’t see this as the coach driver’s fault. It would seem obvious to me that you give them enough space for that ‘swing’.

Two lines of traffic waiting for lights to change - left and straight on goes first - right turn lane held until right turn is allowed - where would you suggest the OP put his car to avoid being hit??

Behind the coach or in front of the rear axle. It seems very poor road awareness by OP. But, hey, ho, legality and common sense do sometimes clash.

And if the coach arrives after? Politely go and ask everyone behind you to reverse a bit?

Rather sanctimonious response.

No. When you stop, maintain some space around you. It is similar to joining a queue of traffic and leaving a space in front in case someone comes barrelling up and not realising everyone has stopped; if you have your car in gear and a gap in front you can avoid being rear-ended. This is especially useful on a slip road off a fast motorway. It is about preserving space around you. If the coach arrives after?, you move forward into the space you have left in front, and continue forward as the traffic moves, or don’t move off and let them move forward and ‘swing’ round. We are only talking about half a car’s length. I would say road-wise, rather than sanctimonious.

[LivLL]

I think you’re in a club of one spouting nonsense about this being the the OPs fault, digging yourself a hole by trying to justify that view.

[Greendubber]

Pica-Pica said:

dave123456 said:

Pica-Pica said:

B'stard Child said:

Pica-Pica said:

I don’t see this as the coach driver’s fault. It would seem obvious to me that you give them enough space for that ‘swing’.

Two lines of traffic waiting for lights to change - left and straight on goes first - right turn lane held until right turn is allowed - where would you suggest the OP put his car to avoid being hit??

Behind the coach or in front of the rear axle. It seems very poor road awareness by OP. But, hey, ho, legality and common sense do sometimes clash.

And if the coach arrives after? Politely go and ask everyone behind you to reverse a bit?

Rather sanctimonious response.

No. When you stop, maintain some space around you. It is similar to joining a queue of traffic and leaving a space in front in case someone comes barrelling up and not realising everyone has stopped; if you have your car in gear and a gap in front you can avoid being rear-ended. This is especially useful on a slip road off a fast motorway. It is about preserving space around you. If the coach arrives after?, you move forward into the space you have left in front, and continue forward as the traffic moves, or don’t move off and let them move forward and ‘swing’ round. We are only talking about half a car’s length. I would say road-wise, rather than sanctimonious.

I'm not so sure about your last line to be honest...

How about some responsibility on the driver of the coach, who is appropriately trained and should be aware of his overhang. If they can't complete their manoeuvre without hitting someone sat in another lane then it's on them.

Edited by Greendubber on Sunday 25th February 11:20

[B'stard Child]

LivLL said:

I think you’re in a club of one spouting nonsense about this being the the OPs fault, digging yourself a hole by trying to justify that view.

I thought he was probably the coach driver

[B'stard Child]

DKL said:

Well that brought a few interesting comments.
I use that junction every day and it's not remotely tight, there have been buses, coaches, artics etc and oddly no one else has hit me. Just one of those things. I'm not entirely sure where else I should have stopped, other than where the white lines dictate.
Anyway the coach co have been up front and honest, accepting responsibly and I'm waiting for the part to arrive at the local MB dealer. I'll fit it as it's both easier for me and less costly for the coach co, who did offer to fit it for me.
Thanks all.

Edited by DKL on Saturday 24th February 22:38

Exactly the result I hoped for.

[spikeyhead]

B'stard Child said:

I thought he was probably the coach driver

It's the only reasonable explanation

[dave123456]

Pica-Pica said:

dave123456 said:

Pica-Pica said:

B'stard Child said:

Pica-Pica said:

I don’t see this as the coach driver’s fault. It would seem obvious to me that you give them enough space for that ‘swing’.

Two lines of traffic waiting for lights to change - left and straight on goes first - right turn lane held until right turn is allowed - where would you suggest the OP put his car to avoid being hit??

Behind the coach or in front of the rear axle. It seems very poor road awareness by OP. But, hey, ho, legality and common sense do sometimes clash.

And if the coach arrives after? Politely go and ask everyone behind you to reverse a bit?

Rather sanctimonious response.

No. When you stop, maintain some space around you. It is similar to joining a queue of traffic and leaving a space in front in case someone comes barrelling up and not realising everyone has stopped; if you have your car in gear and a gap in front you can avoid being rear-ended. This is especially useful on a slip road off a fast motorway. It is about preserving space around you. If the coach arrives after?, you move forward into the space you have left in front, and continue forward as the traffic moves, or don’t move off and let them move forward and ‘swing’ round. We are only talking about half a car’s length. I would say road-wise, rather than sanctimonious.

Do you go through life second guessing every eventuality and acting accordingly?

[The Wookie]

Greendubber said:

I'm not so sure about your last line to be honest...

How about some responsibility on the driver of the coach, who is appropriately trained and should be aware of his overhang. If they can't complete their manoeuvre without hitting someone sat in another lane then it's on them.

Edited by Greendubber on Sunday 25th February 11:20

This exactly, anyone that’s done a test for a large vehicle will know it’s your responsibility in this situation.