Blue lights up your harris on average speed cam road

Blue lights up your harris on average speed cam road

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CLK-GTR

705 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st February
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cashmax said:
Having thought about this some more, am I correct in assuming that the speed limit is 50MPH and the cameras will enforce this by checking your average speed or is it that the speed limit is an average 50MPH?

The signs suggest the former is true.

In other words (assuming I knew which cameras were paired) I travelled at 30mph for the first half and 70mph for the second half, although I would still have averaged 50mph, by traveling at 70mph for a period, have I still committed an offence?
The speed limit is not related to the cameras. The limit is a maximum of 50mph so you will have committed an offence but you wouldn't get a ticket as all the cameras know is that it took you 72 seconds to cover the mile in between the cameras.

bigothunter

11,297 posts

61 months

Wednesday 21st February
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CLK-GTR said:
cashmax said:
Having thought about this some more, am I correct in assuming that the speed limit is 50MPH and the cameras will enforce this by checking your average speed or is it that the speed limit is an average 50MPH?

The signs suggest the former is true.

In other words (assuming I knew which cameras were paired) I travelled at 30mph for the first half and 70mph for the second half, although I would still have averaged 50mph, by traveling at 70mph for a period, have I still committed an offence?
The speed limit is not related to the cameras. The limit is a maximum of 50mph so you will have committed an offence but you wouldn't get a ticket as all the cameras know is that it took you 72 seconds to cover the mile in between the cameras.
Not if the cameras were closer spaced than one mile intervals.

Actually his 30/70 antics over a mile, would take 86 secs which is an average speed of 42mph but still illegal rofl

CLK-GTR

705 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st February
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bigothunter said:
Not if the cameras were closer spaced than one mile intervals.

Actually his 30/70 antics over a mile, would take 86 secs which is an average speed of 42mph but still illegal rofl
And that's the problem with trying to cheat the average speed cameras, it only works if you know where the camera pairs are.

Dave Finney

405 posts

147 months

Wednesday 21st February
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CLK-GTR said:
And that's the problem with trying to cheat the average speed cameras, it only works if you know where the camera pairs are.
And if you can do averages accurately in your head (much harder than you'd think),
or have an app that does it for you! wink

Super Sonic

4,915 posts

55 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Aluminati said:
Just fkoff, pedantic .
I think you'll find 'fk off' is two words!

jeremyh1

1,360 posts

128 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Super Sonic said:
jeremyh1 said:
this is all a complete Non noner

Never going to happen You have more chance of being by a meteorite this evening
What?[/quote

Let me clarify


I am probably the highest milage driver on the site doing 95 thousand miles a year in the same day courier game driving UK and Europe
I have done this for 30 years now covering itr of 2 and half million miles in my life time

I have never had this scenario so I'm not expecting any of you to experience this either

NFT

1,324 posts

23 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Dave Finney said:
CLK-GTR said:
And that's the problem with trying to cheat the average speed cameras, it only works if you know where the camera pairs are.
And if you can do averages accurately in your head (much harder than you'd think),
or have an app that does it for you! wink
It can be difficult, I have parked up in layby a few time's, unaware if I had gone a bit quick following others and where cameras are on some stretches.

There is also additional risk as I think schemes also ensure they drag some into "the motions" on any fast part of an Average Speed zone on occasion, just to ensure their "will" is done, maintaining that "in the motions group" so they can still be making the road less safe whilst pretending it doesn't exist.

Always be careful, they can have unmarked vehicles now, and state they do it on purpose so you never know if they are there or not.

Super Sonic

4,915 posts

55 months

Wednesday 21st February
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jeremyh1 said:
What?[/quote

Let me clarify


I am probably the highest milage driver on the site doing 95 thousand miles a year in the same day courier game driving UK and Europe
I have done this for 30 years now covering itr of 2 and half million miles in my life time

I have never had this scenario so I'm not expecting any of you to experience this either
Still not sure what a 'non noner' is.
Or what 'being by a meteorite' means.

xx99xx

1,925 posts

74 months

Wednesday 21st February
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jeremyh1 said:
Super Sonic said:
jeremyh1 said:
this is all a complete Non noner

Never going to happen You have more chance of being by a meteorite this evening
What?[/quote

Let me clarify


I am probably the highest milage driver on the site doing 95 thousand miles a year in the same day courier game driving UK and Europe
I have done this for 30 years now covering itr of 2 and half million miles in my life time

I have never had this scenario so I'm not expecting any of you to experience this either
Some way to go to beat 'justhavingfun':

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...



NFT

1,324 posts

23 months

Wednesday 21st February
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xx99xx said:
Some way to go to beat 'justhavingfun':

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...


Looks like he's seen modes of transport change over time. laugh

jeremyh1

1,360 posts

128 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Super Sonic said:
Still not sure what a 'non noner' is.
Or what 'being by a meteorite' means.
Do you think I would be driving a van all day if I could spell and pitch the writings of Shakespeare and Wordsworth in an impressive way

In my defence I do speak some Greek and a bit of French!



Pit Pony

8,655 posts

122 months

Thursday 22nd February
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bigothunter said:
Tommo87 said:
And it’s all well and good people saying that 57 is the threshold, but 5mph of that is for speedo variance. Its there because some speedos do under read.
An under-reading speedo is illegal.
Indeed.

Given manufacturing variation is always possible, that's why they are allowed to over read and not under read.

The only time my mk3 1.8 cavalier read accurately was when I had mk3 gsi 15 inch wheels and tyres which were 8% larger.

E-bmw

9,240 posts

153 months

Thursday 22nd February
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cashmax said:
Having thought about this some more, am I correct in assuming that the speed limit is 50MPH and the cameras will enforce this by checking your average speed or is it that the speed limit is an average 50MPH?

The signs suggest the former is true.

In other words (assuming I knew which cameras were paired) I travelled at 30mph for the first half and 70mph for the second half, although I would still have averaged 50mph, by traveling at 70mph for a period, have I still committed an offence?
I find it hard to believe people actually ask questions like this.

What does this sign mean?



Does it mean you can go above 50 MPH part of the time or not?

E-bmw

9,240 posts

153 months

Thursday 22nd February
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zarjaz1991 said:
jeremyh1 said:
this is all a complete Non noner

Never going to happen You have more chance of being by a meteorite this evening
Having to move out of the way of an emergency vehicle?
I still have no idea what J is saying is never going to happen.

Get out of the way of an emergency vehicle perhaps?

Had to do that twice yesterday alone on a 3 hour drive.

Edited by E-bmw on Thursday 22 February 09:08

jeremyh1

1,360 posts

128 months

Thursday 22nd February
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E-bmw said:
I still have no idea what J is saying is never going to happen.

Get out of the way of an emergency vehicle perhaps?

Had to do that twice yesterday alone on a 3 hour drive.

Edited by E-bmw on Thursday 22 February 09:08
Just pull over and let the emergency vehicle pass
If you have a live lane to your left indicate and the traffic flow will let you in
There is no need at any point to increase your speed over the limit its dangerous and put you and other road users at risk

If you at the limit and the emergency vehicle cant get past stay on the limit until he can over take you

I have never been in this situation
I will remind you I am one of the highest milage drivers on the site

E-bmw

9,240 posts

153 months

Thursday 22nd February
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jeremyh1 said:
I will remind you I am one of the highest milage drivers on the site
Oh, well you must be right then, it has obviously never happened. bowbowbow

DodgyGeezer

40,541 posts

191 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Super Sonic said:
Aluminati said:
Just fkoff, pedantic .
I think you'll find 'fk off' is two words!
rofl

Patio

Original Poster:

535 posts

12 months

Thursday 22nd February
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jeremyh1 said:
E-bmw said:
I still have no idea what J is saying is never going to happen.

Get out of the way of an emergency vehicle perhaps?

Had to do that twice yesterday alone on a 3 hour drive.

Edited by E-bmw on Thursday 22 February 09:08
Just pull over and let the emergency vehicle pass
If you have a live lane to your left indicate and the traffic flow will let you in
There is no need at any point to increase your speed over the limit its dangerous and put you and other road users at risk

If you at the limit and the emergency vehicle cant get past stay on the limit until he can over take you

I have never been in this situation
I will remind you I am one of the highest milage drivers on the site
This "traffic flow" thing is fine normally

It's abit different when all 3 lanes are are travelling within a couple of mph of each other as its a 50 limit



E-bmw

9,240 posts

153 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Patio said:
jeremyh1 said:
E-bmw said:
I still have no idea what J is saying is never going to happen.

Get out of the way of an emergency vehicle perhaps?

Had to do that twice yesterday alone on a 3 hour drive.

Edited by E-bmw on Thursday 22 February 09:08
Just pull over and let the emergency vehicle pass
If you have a live lane to your left indicate and the traffic flow will let you in
There is no need at any point to increase your speed over the limit its dangerous and put you and other road users at risk

If you at the limit and the emergency vehicle cant get past stay on the limit until he can over take you

I have never been in this situation
I will remind you I am one of the highest milage drivers on the site
This "traffic flow" thing is fine normally

It's abit different when all 3 lanes are are travelling within a couple of mph of each other as its a 50 limit
But surely that is better/safer/quicker than the constant stop/start 70/0 mph shuffle & inevitable quick lane changes that can be prevalent on normal sections of the motorway network.

BertBert

19,072 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd February
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Patio said:
It's abit different when all 3 lanes are are travelling within a couple of mph of each other as its a 50 limit
I'm finding it hard to believe that with a police car up yer chuff with blues on that indicating left wouldn't get a gap for you to pull in to.