Blue lights up your harris on average speed cam road
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cashmax said:
Riley Blue said:
Zarco said:
SlimJim16v said:
Speed up, then slow down to reduce your average.
This. Piece of piss. An X5 who rocked up behind on the motorway (I was at 75ish) and then lit up the blues - I took this to mean, 'get a move on'. Quick squirt up to 85 ish and I was back in and clear.
Two of them, blues already on, closing at three figure speeds during a reported serious incident, never found out what it was, on an A road near Stonehenge, so doing 60. I saw that I would clear the vehicles coming the other way before being caught only to have the lead vehicle slow significantly and ensure we all met at the same point. Was a fair bit over 80 getting out of their way then lifted as soon as they pulled out to pass. Mrs 5 was convinced there would be an unwanted delivery on the mat after our holiday. There wasn't.
GasEngineer said:
Interesting. Is it not the case that the individual cameras act as standalone cameras as well as calculating the average speed? Precisely to stop drivers speeding up / slowing down in this way.
Please don’t say you’re not of those that stamps on the brakes every time that you pass one!I had the opposite happen to me.
I was doing 75 on a dual carriageway and came up behind an ambulance on blues maybe doing just over 70.
They were sitting in the outside lane with the occasional vehicle on the inside but nothing to stop them moving over but they made no attempt to.
I just sat behind for a couple of miles till he peeled off a slip road. I wasn’t really sure if this was policy or they were just a bit of a dick.
I preferred it when the driver of the car in front just behaved normally. Pull to the left if you can. Don't go doing anything extravagant. Very scary for the emergency driver.
The ambulance in the right-hand lane was probably driving in the interests of the patent. The crew will want to limit lane changes. So, perhaps, not a dick, at least as far as the patient is concerned. I'm sure they were devastated at costing drivers a minute or so.
The ambulance in the right-hand lane was probably driving in the interests of the patent. The crew will want to limit lane changes. So, perhaps, not a dick, at least as far as the patient is concerned. I'm sure they were devastated at costing drivers a minute or so.
Sporky said:
cashmax said:
So obvious it really makes me wonder about some people's competence to drive TBH.
Suggesting that people speed in an average camera zone and with a police (?) vehicle right behind them speaks poorly of your own competence. Derek Smith said:
I preferred it when the driver of the car in front just behaved normally. Pull to the left if you can. Don't go doing anything extravagant. Very scary for the emergency driver.
My dad was a fireman and he said what was a nightmare for them was people who just stop - they’ve then got to get around them and get back up to speed.Sheepshanks said:
Pica-Pica said:
LosingGrip said:
You could appeal it...don't think it would work mind you.
It won’t work. As I was told by a police officer who, when off duty, got done in a similar way, and his appeal was rejected.You said you had to speed up in order to "snail" past the other traffic...why were you in an overtaking lane without overtaking?
These things aren't difficult. As someone else pointed out, you should really have noticed them before they were right behind you (perhaps they'd been sat for a while without you noticing and so moved up close for a change of tactic). Position yourself beside a gap, get your indicator on, make it clear that you want to move into the gap, hold your speed, wait for the car beside you to drop back. Was the police car marked or unmarked?
These things aren't difficult. As someone else pointed out, you should really have noticed them before they were right behind you (perhaps they'd been sat for a while without you noticing and so moved up close for a change of tactic). Position yourself beside a gap, get your indicator on, make it clear that you want to move into the gap, hold your speed, wait for the car beside you to drop back. Was the police car marked or unmarked?
Edited by whimsical ninja on Sunday 18th February 09:56
Edited by whimsical ninja on Sunday 18th February 09:57
Tribal Chestnut said:
GasEngineer said:
Interesting. Is it not the case that the individual cameras act as standalone cameras as well as calculating the average speed? Precisely to stop drivers speeding up / slowing down in this way.
Please don’t say you’re not of those that stamps on the brakes every time that you pass one!GasEngineer said:
Interesting. Is it not the case that the individual cameras act as standalone cameras as well as calculating the average speed? Precisely to stop drivers speeding up / slowing down in this way.
Yes, you're right.It is NOT the case that average cameras monitor your speed at each camera.
Each average camera just:
1. notes your reg Nb,
2. notes the time,
3. takes a photo.
That's really all each camera does. A computer then checks the time taken between cameras and, knowing the distances, calculates the average speed between each pair.
If you do 100mph past each camera, but stop midway for a time, they don't detect an offence.
Back to topic,
I believe it is illegal to commit any offence in order to allow a blue light vehicle to pass, even an ambulance.
Sheepshanks said:
Derek Smith said:
I preferred it when the driver of the car in front just behaved normally. Pull to the left if you can. Don't go doing anything extravagant. Very scary for the emergency driver.
My dad was a fireman and he said what was a nightmare for them was people who just stop - they’ve then got to get around them and get back up to speed.For blue lights I will never:
Speed up
Go through red lights even by a couple of feet
Mount kerbs / pavements / grass verges
Enter bus lanes
or anything else illegal.
The reason for this is the authorities have made it clear they will not accept any of the above as defences against prosecution.
If they want us to this, make it an automatic defence. It should be easily provable.
Normally when I post this view, people come back with things like “what’s three points to save a life?” or “what if it was your child dying in the back of an ambulance?” and other such emotional nonsense. I don’t care. I’m not doing it. Not. My. Problem.
Speed up
Go through red lights even by a couple of feet
Mount kerbs / pavements / grass verges
Enter bus lanes
or anything else illegal.
The reason for this is the authorities have made it clear they will not accept any of the above as defences against prosecution.
If they want us to this, make it an automatic defence. It should be easily provable.
Normally when I post this view, people come back with things like “what’s three points to save a life?” or “what if it was your child dying in the back of an ambulance?” and other such emotional nonsense. I don’t care. I’m not doing it. Not. My. Problem.
cashmax said:
So obvious it really makes me wonder about some people's competence to drive TBH. The OP opted to hold up a potential blue light emergency for a minute, rather than take this simple action.
Even more obvious and simple to just indicate left. I've never not been 'let in' whilst moving over for a blue light. cashmax said:
Riley Blue said:
Zarco said:
SlimJim16v said:
Speed up, then slow down to reduce your average.
This. Piece of piss. Drawweight said:
I had the opposite happen to me.
I was doing 75 on a dual carriageway and came up behind an ambulance on blues maybe doing just over 70.
They were sitting in the outside lane with the occasional vehicle on the inside but nothing to stop them moving over but they made no attempt to.
I just sat behind for a couple of miles till he peeled off a slip road. I wasn’t really sure if this was policy or they were just a bit of a dick.
I had exactly the same experience on the two lane section of the southbound M74. It occurred to me that there might be someone in the back of the ambulance trying to keep someone else alive, in which endeavour a bunch of unnecessary lane changes might be actively unhelpful, so I just followed until he pulled off. I was doing 75 on a dual carriageway and came up behind an ambulance on blues maybe doing just over 70.
They were sitting in the outside lane with the occasional vehicle on the inside but nothing to stop them moving over but they made no attempt to.
I just sat behind for a couple of miles till he peeled off a slip road. I wasn’t really sure if this was policy or they were just a bit of a dick.
It strikes me that if you ever find yourself trying to decide whether it's you or the driver of a f
king ambulance that's being a bit of a dick, it's going to be you. Dave Finney said:
Yes, you're right.
It is NOT the case that average cameras monitor your speed at each camera.
Each average camera just:
1. notes your reg Nb,
2. notes the time,
3. takes a photo.
That's really all each camera does. A computer then checks the time taken between cameras and, knowing the distances, calculates the average speed between each pair.
If you do 100mph past each camera, but stop midway for a time, they don't detect an offence.
Thanks for the info. You live and learn !It is NOT the case that average cameras monitor your speed at each camera.
Each average camera just:
1. notes your reg Nb,
2. notes the time,
3. takes a photo.
That's really all each camera does. A computer then checks the time taken between cameras and, knowing the distances, calculates the average speed between each pair.
If you do 100mph past each camera, but stop midway for a time, they don't detect an offence.
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