RE: Laser meters are inaccurate: BBC
Discussion
will watch the programme out of interest but from the article I will presume the following satment from the government.
Slimy theiving toerag says
" slip error is caused when the laser device is moved across the target. All our operators are trained in the correct procedure so this error can not happen"
I will eat my hat if anything becomes of this.
Slimy theiving toerag says
" slip error is caused when the laser device is moved across the target. All our operators are trained in the correct procedure so this error can not happen"
I will eat my hat if anything becomes of this.
No surprise there. What a bunch of crooks our government and police are.
In what I suppose was the Beeb's idea of balance, we (Midlands) got a propaganda piece about why it's naughty to offload your points onto a third party. Complete with the police knocking on doors to "track down people who give their points to someone else" (oh really? bit like TV detector vans eh?) and some feckwit presenter who set up a fake website offering a service to take people's points. The website got two emails in the 24 hour period, one of which was "from a policeman warning us that what we are doing is illegal. So it seems that the police ARE clamping down on this activity.....". No, it seems that you should be presenting a childrens TV show you patronising c@nt.....
I was raging so much I nearly choked on my noodles. Bastards.
I was raging so much I nearly choked on my noodles. Bastards.
Different gun to the US - what a load of bollox!
As if they would sell an inferior product in their own country, the actual electronics inside proabably only cost a few pence anyway what a load of Arse!
It's akin to the old 'paralell import' argument that Motorbike dealers used to use (to protect their profits); "Ooh it's an import, inferior to the UK version" well I bought an Italian market Ducati motorcycle and was told this by a few dealers, FFS they're all made in Italy, They're all imports do you think they sell the best ones in the UK and palm off the crap to their own home market? well the same applies to Scam guns.
If the UK version is so 'superior' why not prove it and offer one for test.
And as for the special 'Training' the scammers get, they can hold an instrument perfectly still whilst scamming a moving vehicle having just formed a prior judgement of speed at the roadside at 500m in all conditions? where are these people from? the planet Kryptonite, again a complete load of Arse!
What a bunch of corrupt self-serving scum these 'Partnerships'(I hate the way Nulabia have corrupted that word) are
rant over
>> Edited by catso on Monday 12th September 20:22
As if they would sell an inferior product in their own country, the actual electronics inside proabably only cost a few pence anyway what a load of Arse!
It's akin to the old 'paralell import' argument that Motorbike dealers used to use (to protect their profits); "Ooh it's an import, inferior to the UK version" well I bought an Italian market Ducati motorcycle and was told this by a few dealers, FFS they're all made in Italy, They're all imports do you think they sell the best ones in the UK and palm off the crap to their own home market? well the same applies to Scam guns.
If the UK version is so 'superior' why not prove it and offer one for test.
And as for the special 'Training' the scammers get, they can hold an instrument perfectly still whilst scamming a moving vehicle having just formed a prior judgement of speed at the roadside at 500m in all conditions? where are these people from? the planet Kryptonite, again a complete load of Arse!
What a bunch of corrupt self-serving scum these 'Partnerships'(I hate the way Nulabia have corrupted that word) are
rant over
>> Edited by catso on Monday 12th September 20:22
neil.b said:
In what I suppose was the Beeb's idea of balance, we (Midlands) got a propaganda piece about why it's naughty to offload your points onto a third party.
We got that one (watched the other on Sky) but, hey at least it put the idea into Peoples heads, I mean in most cases it is never going to be found out.
Good on people who abuse the 'system' as the system is corrupt and needs to dragged further into disrepute.
I got done a few years ago in Chelmsford, I was sure I was doing 50, they said 58,I argued, they said see you in court. In court they even contradicted each other but......................the magistrate said "they were using home office approved equipement and had recieved the proper training, therefore I must be guilty" £800 please.
Moral of the story whatever you say if plod says you did it the courts will always believe them not you!
Moral of the story whatever you say if plod says you did it the courts will always believe them not you!
This proves beyond doubt that justice doesn't figure in the persecution of the motorist.
Supposing they found evidence that DNA was unsafe. Would they leave all the rapists and murderers rotting in jail because even though the evidence against them "may" be flawed, they probably did it anyhow?
Would they continue to put people inside on the strength of DNA?
SM
Supposing they found evidence that DNA was unsafe. Would they leave all the rapists and murderers rotting in jail because even though the evidence against them "may" be flawed, they probably did it anyhow?
Would they continue to put people inside on the strength of DNA?
SM
Moo Moo said:
Well if my school boy maths is still up to the task, the operator would only have to move the camera 0.143 of a degree to produce a slip of a meter at 400m range. Can anyone in this world hold a camera that steady?
No, no-one can. Therefore, all readings will not prove a speed "beyond reasonable doubt".
nightdriver said:
Why if you used the evidence from the programme and were unsuccesful in court could face a stronger conviction?
I guess this is to scare you into accepting their doubtful "evidence" and paying up.
However, it would seem from their actions as if it is they who are running scared.
nightdriver said:
Why if you used the evidence from the programme and were unsuccesful in court could face a stronger conviction?
I guess this is to scare you into accepting their doubtful "evidence" and paying up.
However, it would seem from their actions as if it is they who are running scared.
james_j said:
Why if you used the evidence from the programme and were unsuccesful in court could face a stronger conviction?
I guess this is to scare you into accepting their doubtful "evidence" and paying up.
However, it would seem from their actions as if it is they who are running scared.
Agreed, 'threats' are usually the recourse of a party who feels threatened.
I thought that the Home Office and Police declining to take part in the programme in any way just shows they are not willing to play fair. I thought the programme was very interesting and cannot belive that police are using these 'hand held'?? Seems daft to me? Most people, myself included, have enough trouble with a cam-corder let alone something where such minute movements can cause real problems! Surely they could develop a car mounted bracket if they did not want to mess around with a tripod??
Just because they are in a uniform does not mean that they are 'always right' and that you are 'always wrong'.
IMHO there needs to be more communication between Home Office/Police and the general public, rather than perpetuating the "Them and Us" mentality!
>> Edited by cerby4.5 on Tuesday 13th September 10:00
Just because they are in a uniform does not mean that they are 'always right' and that you are 'always wrong'.
IMHO there needs to be more communication between Home Office/Police and the general public, rather than perpetuating the "Them and Us" mentality!
>> Edited by cerby4.5 on Tuesday 13th September 10:00
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