£54 mill benefits fraud - likely sentence?
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MBVitoria said:
Not my area but I reckon 7 years each taking into account reduction for guilty plea. Automatically eligible for release after 50% served.
Back home after 3.5 years. Their relatives will probably have very nice homes and lots of money, all earned legitimately of course and no obvious link to the defendants.
Vast amounts of it will be in crypto, will probably double in value before they are even out.Back home after 3.5 years. Their relatives will probably have very nice homes and lots of money, all earned legitimately of course and no obvious link to the defendants.
That's generational wealth for their families for maybe hundreds of years to come. All for 3.5 years in prison.
Amazing.
Patio said:
What are they likely to face? Banged up at our expense?
Bet most of the cash is now in Eastern Europe anyway...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-6877424...
Mistake they made was being commoners. £54m fraud is small change if you’re rich, bit of a sweetener to HMRC or an MP and you’re laughing. Bet most of the cash is now in Eastern Europe anyway...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-6877424...
I’d rather know where the £37bn for ‘track and trace’ went, plus all the multi-billions in useless PPE. Or a billion-by-billion breakdown of exactly what we’ve spent the HS2 money on.
Benefits fraud, even at this scale, is absolutely nothing compared to how much money the country (us, the taxpayer) is haemorrhaging. It’s a brilliant story for the government though, we can all blame those foreigners again for the state of the country.
Chucky-egg said:
Patio said:
What are they likely to face? Banged up at our expense?
Bet most of the cash is now in Eastern Europe anyway...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-6877424...
Mistake they made was being commoners. £54m fraud is small change if you’re rich, bit of a sweetener to HMRC or an MP and you’re laughing. Bet most of the cash is now in Eastern Europe anyway...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-6877424...
I’d rather know where the £37bn for ‘track and trace’ went, plus all the multi-billions in useless PPE. Or a billion-by-billion breakdown of exactly what we’ve spent the HS2 money on.
Benefits fraud, even at this scale, is absolutely nothing compared to how much money the country (us, the taxpayer) is haemorrhaging. It’s a brilliant story for the government though, we can all blame those foreigners again for the state of the country.
Benefits fraud is absolutely something and not even pointing at very costly squirrels over there will change that.
ChocolateFrog said:
I often think if someone with a modest amount of intelligence applied themselves to crime they'd almost certainly get away with it.
Why not stop at a few million, or 10 million, or 30 million and sail off into the sunset?
I'm quite tempted personally, chance of being caught for a white collar crime, 1 in a million?
I have a friend who was educated at a £50k pa school, he is a very clever bloke but has served 20 years out of 2 15+ sentences.Why not stop at a few million, or 10 million, or 30 million and sail off into the sunset?
I'm quite tempted personally, chance of being caught for a white collar crime, 1 in a million?
He is now writing a book about his experiences as a cat A prisoner in Bellmarsh and the 9.5 million recovered under proceeds of crime…I think he got away with a lot but he didn’t get away with the big number crimes.
ChocolateFrog said:
I often think if someone with a modest amount of intelligence applied themselves to crime they'd almost certainly get away with it.
Why not stop at a few million, or 10 million, or 30 million and sail off into the sunset?
I'm quite tempted personally, chance of being caught for a white collar crime, 1 in a million?
GreedWhy not stop at a few million, or 10 million, or 30 million and sail off into the sunset?
I'm quite tempted personally, chance of being caught for a white collar crime, 1 in a million?
mcflurry said:
I'd love to know how they got away with it for so long.
A few years ago my wife applied, they did what seemed like 101 checks before replying with a refusal..
They played the system as simply as possible. Sent in claims with fake papers but, crucially, removed any claims they felt were being questioned.A few years ago my wife applied, they did what seemed like 101 checks before replying with a refusal..
Hard not to think they had inside help as most of this money would be paid into fake bank accounts. Many thousands of bank accounts fraudulently opened. The gang have not even bothered to contest it. My guess is they feel 5 years max for 50 odd million is great work.
Comical to hear the benefits office spinning this as evidence they will not accept fraud and that we should thank them for a good job done.
jondude said:
mcflurry said:
I'd love to know how they got away with it for so long.
A few years ago my wife applied, they did what seemed like 101 checks before replying with a refusal..
They played the system as simply as possible. Sent in claims with fake papers but, crucially, removed any claims they felt were being questioned.A few years ago my wife applied, they did what seemed like 101 checks before replying with a refusal..
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