How common is car cloning?
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Zio Di Roma said:
Some decals. As luck would have it, I had photos of the car from a few days before the incident, clearly showing the decals which were absent in their image.
Have you got CCTV at home?
No I haven't, but now I know what the cloned cars numberplate looks like i'm considering getting some different numberplates made.Have you got CCTV at home?
Zio Di Roma said:
The council has written to us waiving the ticket and telling us we must tell plod.
I don't think we will bother with plod unless it becomes a repeat problem. Why? Because I anticipate that it would just add our car to the police database, a situation from which no good will come. Just the driver being stopped for plod to check the car.
The police are just as likely to stop the cloned car as they are your own. I don't think we will bother with plod unless it becomes a repeat problem. Why? Because I anticipate that it would just add our car to the police database, a situation from which no good will come. Just the driver being stopped for plod to check the car.
They only need to do that once for your problem to go away. It’s not going to be indefinitely.
How is that not good?
Hol said:
Zio Di Roma said:
The council has written to us waiving the ticket and telling us we must tell plod.
I don't think we will bother with plod unless it becomes a repeat problem. Why? Because I anticipate that it would just add our car to the police database, a situation from which no good will come. Just the driver being stopped for plod to check the car.
The police are just as likely to stop the cloned car as they are your own. I don't think we will bother with plod unless it becomes a repeat problem. Why? Because I anticipate that it would just add our car to the police database, a situation from which no good will come. Just the driver being stopped for plod to check the car.
They only need to do that once for your problem to go away. It’s not going to be indefinitely.
How is that not good?
Zio Di Roma said:
Hol said:
Zio Di Roma said:
The council has written to us waiving the ticket and telling us we must tell plod.
I don't think we will bother with plod unless it becomes a repeat problem. Why? Because I anticipate that it would just add our car to the police database, a situation from which no good will come. Just the driver being stopped for plod to check the car.
The police are just as likely to stop the cloned car as they are your own. I don't think we will bother with plod unless it becomes a repeat problem. Why? Because I anticipate that it would just add our car to the police database, a situation from which no good will come. Just the driver being stopped for plod to check the car.
They only need to do that once for your problem to go away. It’s not going to be indefinitely.
How is that not good?
I keep getting Dartford Crossing fines through the post for a vehicle with the same reg as mine.
It’s simple to get it cancelled each time as my car is a Fiat Panda and the vehicle that’s incurred the fine is a Transit Drop Side.
From looking at the zoomed in photo they have used a yellow screw cover cap to change the letter ‘P’ in to an ‘F’ which then gives it the same reg as my car.
Thankfully getting the fine removed each time is quick and painless.
It’s simple to get it cancelled each time as my car is a Fiat Panda and the vehicle that’s incurred the fine is a Transit Drop Side.
From looking at the zoomed in photo they have used a yellow screw cover cap to change the letter ‘P’ in to an ‘F’ which then gives it the same reg as my car.
Thankfully getting the fine removed each time is quick and painless.
In answer to the original question, it seems that there are around 13,000 reports each year (probably a few more by now) but compared to the total number of cars in the UK, it’s still a tiny proportion…
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Random_Person said:
Even if stopped. the intent is near on impossible to prove. The best you are looking at is a 100 pound fine for incorrect plates, even if you drove with no plates front and back, it is still 100 pounds.
Find a conviction for "driving with cloned plates" - you won't find any. A very easy and cheap way to escape London cameras with only a small chance of actually being stopped and then having to cough for a minor traffic fine.
Wouldn't they also get done for no insurance? It's still not enough but the more things that can be added on the better! Find a conviction for "driving with cloned plates" - you won't find any. A very easy and cheap way to escape London cameras with only a small chance of actually being stopped and then having to cough for a minor traffic fine.
"One in 12 cars on UK roads could have cloned registration plates..." (from Googling the title of this topic).
I find that a bit hard to believe but, of all speeding offences detected, only 60% result in a penalty (fine or SAC).
So maybe there's some truth to it?
60% penalty: https://speedcamerareport.co.uk/effects-of-speed-c...
One in 12: https://www.ageas.co.uk/solved/your-car/how-car-cl...
I find that a bit hard to believe but, of all speeding offences detected, only 60% result in a penalty (fine or SAC).
So maybe there's some truth to it?
60% penalty: https://speedcamerareport.co.uk/effects-of-speed-c...
One in 12: https://www.ageas.co.uk/solved/your-car/how-car-cl...
Pot Bellied Fool said:
Wouldn't they also get done for no insurance? It's still not enough but the more things that can be added on the better!
There will be a load of driving offences most likely, licence, insurance, so yes potentially a decent amount of stuff uncovered. But it will all be a report for summons to court, not getting arrested and taken to the station. Unless the car is stolen or there are other more serious offences. If a car that is cloned is full of drugs / stolen it will most likely make off anyway, and most pursuits end up in a loss. So if it stops, chances are the actual offences will be low (else the driver would have bolted).Pot Bellied Fool said:
Wouldn't they also get done for no insurance? It's still not enough but the more things that can be added on the better!
They may well have insurance for the vehicle under the original registration, and if stopped they could claim that they didn't know about the incorrect number plate and someone must have switched them without then realising. Clearly a lie, but how do you prove so beyond reasonable doubt?If you've gone to the extent of fitting cloned plates, you're not going to be bothering with ins, tax or MOT. Cops are not the brightest crayons, but even they are not dumb enough to believe a "oh someone must have swapped both of my plates for fake ones and I never noticed" story. On a lot of cars now, the tax is more than the insurance !
The Gauge said:
Pot Bellied Fool said:
Wouldn't they also get done for no insurance? It's still not enough but the more things that can be added on the better!
They may well have insurance for the vehicle under the original registration, and if stopped they could claim that they didn't know about the incorrect number plate and someone must have switched them without then realising. Clearly a lie, but how do you prove so beyond reasonable doubt?Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff