CCTV Parking ticket ?
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wtanih said:
The Local Authority is permitted to enforce restrictions without advising (by signage) that either cameras may be capturing a vehicle in contravention or that a parking attendant may operate in the area. There is no obligation on the Local Authority to give advice about which method of enforcement they choose."
FK Me. How did that legislation get through. Are we all supposed to be psychic ??
it's disgusting really. and if they can convict someone (£80 fine ! ) for a 37sec infringement, then i say, lets storm the town hall and string them up !
andy_vtec said:
wtanih said:
The Local Authority is permitted to enforce restrictions without advising (by signage) that either cameras may be capturing a vehicle in contravention or that a parking attendant may operate in the area. There is no obligation on the Local Authority to give advice about which method of enforcement they choose."
FK Me. How did that legislation get through. Are we all supposed to be psychic ??
personally i'm more into freedom of movement, anti big brother and the nanny state
If i can protest this, i will. And the end of the day, prosecutions via these methods ultimately undermines any good these authorities do. Same deal as the nanny state using speed cameras everywhere - it's nothing to with road safety, it's a stealth tax.
If a car is parked dangerously or potentially slowing traffic down etc - then fair do. But let's be straight about it - this is to do with making money ! I'd jumped out paid a cheque in the auto teller - so 2 mins maybe. Even the commission wardens would of given me 2 mins to do it !
If i can protest this, i will. And the end of the day, prosecutions via these methods ultimately undermines any good these authorities do. Same deal as the nanny state using speed cameras everywhere - it's nothing to with road safety, it's a stealth tax.
If a car is parked dangerously or potentially slowing traffic down etc - then fair do. But let's be straight about it - this is to do with making money ! I'd jumped out paid a cheque in the auto teller - so 2 mins maybe. Even the commission wardens would of given me 2 mins to do it !
targarama said:
Were you parked illegally? More than just picking up/dropping off? If so then swallow your pride and pay the fine. If not then protest.
woof said:
Hi Chaps
This is a new one on me
Having protested 5 parking tickets in the past - and won ! Here's the latest one - but new to me is parking fine by CCTV ?!
Obviously the council are allowed to do it ?
However the 2 pics are only a few seconds apart
you can't see that there's no one else in the car (tinted windows - legally tinted)
Worth protesting ?
>> Edited by woof on Wednesday 12th October 10:11
Isnt the guy in the pic the one you stopped to let out of your car, (which you are allowed to do) or are you just one of the "I can park anyware" brigade?
Hi
park anywhere?! - that would be anarchy !!
however - local shops should have a 10min waiting or something. The London Red routes effectively killed off most small business along their routes - so you then have to travel further to get to a supermarket, er hence causing more congestion etc etc
park anywhere?! - that would be anarchy !!
however - local shops should have a 10min waiting or something. The London Red routes effectively killed off most small business along their routes - so you then have to travel further to get to a supermarket, er hence causing more congestion etc etc
Vipers said:
Isnt the guy in the pic the one you stopped to let out of your car, (which you are allowed to do) or are you just one of the "I can park anyware" brigade?
just an obsevation or 2, is that blue thing on a small post on the pavement in the picture a parking meter?
2 what does the little yellow sign say, as it is a single yellow , there is often rectanglular sign stating times you are allowed to park and parking restrictions in opperation at that place.
2 what does the little yellow sign say, as it is a single yellow , there is often rectanglular sign stating times you are allowed to park and parking restrictions in opperation at that place.
antispeed said:
just an obsevation or 2, is that blue thing on a small post on the pavement in the picture a parking meter?
2 what does the little yellow sign say, as it is a single yellow , there is often rectanglular sign stating times you are allowed to park and parking restrictions in opperation at that place.
good point - that blue thing is actually the parking info sign - but it's covered up ...
I'll double check this - but that would be bloody funny
There own evidence getting me off
Oh doom and gloom Woof....
I think you will find that Enfield Borough will have a Permitted Parking and Special Area Order making the area Controlled Zone. One of the outcomes of this, in addition to de criminalising yellow line offences, that there is no longer an obligation to put signs up at intervals to indicate the limit on the yellow lines providing the restriction is marked on the signage at the entrance to the Controlled Zone. This fact could be used to show the signage unlawful and therefore no offence but now plugged in Controlled Zones.
Posted no with any glee but so you are aware of facts.
dvd
I think you will find that Enfield Borough will have a Permitted Parking and Special Area Order making the area Controlled Zone. One of the outcomes of this, in addition to de criminalising yellow line offences, that there is no longer an obligation to put signs up at intervals to indicate the limit on the yellow lines providing the restriction is marked on the signage at the entrance to the Controlled Zone. This fact could be used to show the signage unlawful and therefore no offence but now plugged in Controlled Zones.
Posted no with any glee but so you are aware of facts.
dvd
woof said:
local shops should have a 10min waiting or something. The London Red routes effectively killed off most small business along their routes - so you then have to travel further to get to a supermarket, er hence causing more congestion etc etc
Quite true of course, but the problem is that every man and his dog wants to pop in the shop in the car, dont walk there anymore, same country over, you see cars parked on the pavement outside take aways, instead of perhaps going a little further and parking around the corner.
When the introduced bus lanes in Aberdeen only a couple of years ago, some shops just went down the tubes and shut up., but at the same time motorists expect to be able to drive down the road with encountering hold ups by parked cars, catch 22 really.
7db said:
Only people who can park up to use our local kebab shop (been double red-lined) are the local plod who often block the road with their vehicles.
Worthy of a major written complaint to the local head of police with photo evidence, even local paper may relish a call.
That really really gets up my hooter,
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