Bloody Clampers

[Zod]

deva link said:

I'm assuming the permit was upside down as in flipped over, face down, so it would be unreadable.

Ah!

[Mr E]

Jolly good.

Reply from them.

Clampers said:

"We are contracted by various Landowners and have the instruction to immobilise any unauthorised vehicles in their parking areas. The above vehicle was immobilised due to the fact it was parked in a private area, for permit holders only, with no valid permit on display. Therefore no casual parking is permitted. Further, it is your responsibility as the driver of the motor vehicle to adhere to the rules and regulations prior to leaving your vehicle unattended. We would ask you to note that a valid car parking permit must be prominently displayed at all times"

yada yada. Basically, no dice, we're keeping your money.

The fun bit is;

Clampers said:

We are contracted by various Landowners and have the instruction to immobilise any unauthorised vehicles in their parking areas.

We were granted permission to park there by friends who own one of the flats. Ergo, the car is autherized. And said friends are willing to put that into writing.

Time to go legal?

>> Edited by Mr E on Friday 4th November 15:21

[matchless]

but dont forget under the Bill of Rights Act 1669 you cannot be fined without having been first convicted by a Court of Law, ( a Tribunal will not do), stick up for them matey as no one else will nowadays, ie fixed pealties are illegal and null and void in English Law!(ultra Vires)

matchless

[nonegreen]

matchless said:

but dont forget under the Bill of Rights Act 1669 you cannot be fined without having been first convicted by a Court of Law, ( a Tribunal will not do), stick up for them matey as no one else will nowadays, ie fixed pealties are illegal and null and void in English Law!(ultra Vires) matchless

All these clamping firms are illegal.

I have no idea why anyone would not simply remove the clamp. On the 3 occasions I have been clamped I have removed the clamp on 2 of them and intimidated the clamper into removing the clamp in the 3rd case. Why the hell do we allow this bullshit to carry on in our country? Parking is fairly simple really, private car parks should have access control or expect unwanted parking. Sensible parking restrictions on public roads can and are enforced by fines. These can be contested. Parking accross peoples driveways or access roads incurs a ticket and if removal is not made by the owner when requested the vehicle can be towed. Anything alse is illegal and nobody has the right to clamp your car.

[GKP]

Along with a torch, warning triangle and spare bulbs you need to keep one of these in the boot...

www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=060510410&r=2115&g=115

[nonegreen]

GKP said:

Along with a torch, warning triangle and spare bulbs you need to keep one of these in the boot... www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=060510410&r=2115&g=115

Or a pair of bolt croppers

[Mr E]

nonegreen said:

All these clamping firms are illegal. I have no idea why anyone would not simply remove the clamp.

8pm. In the freezing cold. Veiled threats of having the car towed, larger amounts of money, needed the car the following day. Limited access to bolt cutters.

Path of least resistance was to pay the cash and challange it later. Sorry.

[Marki]

Hmm im just thinking ,, and i can not think of any other European country that has clamping

[outrider]

If they threaten to tow the car simply sit in it call the police and say you are being kidnapped.

[Mr E]

outrider said:

If they threaten to tow the car simply sit in it call the police and say you are being kidnapped.

Nice.

[Peter Ward]

Marki said:

Hmm im just thinking ,, and i can not think of any other European country that has clamping

I know cars can be towed in Germany. Not sure about clamping first though.

[corozin]

I would suggest buying an angle grinder next time - far cheaper than a £120 fine I reckon

[xxplod]

I've not read all the posts, so apologies if this has been covered. I have a lot of experience of clampers. Lok at the Security Industry Authority website. Since around May this year all clampers, and that means the individual operatives MUST be licenced by the SIA in the same way as door staff have been for some time. Always ask to see their SIA identification - they MUST show it to you. If they don't, they are committing a criminal offence of Engaging in Licensable Conduct without a License. You should then call the Police.
If they can't/won't show the ID, fee free to cut the clamp off. You will not be prosecuted for criminal damage as the clamp was unlawfully placed. One of my previous threads on this subject may bring a smile to a few faces when a cowboy outfit clamped an unmarked CID vehicle.

[DennisTheMenace]

corozin said:

I would suggest buying an angle grinder next time - far cheaper than a £120 fine I reckon

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[Mr E]

xxplod said:

I've not read all the posts, so apologies if this has been covered. I have a lot of experience of clampers. Lok at the Security Industry Authority website. Since around May this year all clampers, and that means the individual operatives MUST be licenced by the SIA in the same way as door staff have been for some time. Always ask to see their SIA identification - they MUST show it to you. If they don't, they are committing a criminal offence of Engaging in Licensable Conduct without a License. You should then call the Police. If they can't/won't show the ID, fee free to cut the clamp off. You will not be prosecuted for criminal damage as the clamp was unlawfully placed. One of my previous threads on this subject may bring a smile to a few faces when a cowboy outfit clamped an unmarked CID vehicle.

Yup, I knew that from your previous storu and they were indeed registered.

[JMGS4]

Marki said:

Hmm im just thinking ,, and i can not think of any other European country that has clamping

Noooooo, because either it's threatening behaviour (up to 3 years klink) or extortion (up to 12 years klink) or even banditry (up to death penalty!!!)

[mybrainhurts]

nonegreen said:

GKP said: Along with a torch, warning triangle and spare bulbs you need to keep one of these in the boot... www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=060510410&r=2115&g=115 Or a pair of bolt croppers

Or a pair of bent coppers.....





Not, of course, forgetting one of THESE

[Big Fat F'er]

Evocator said:

I really hate this taking direct action. Who do you think you are? There could be very good reasons for the car in the bay not displaying a permit and you could have just caused major inconvenience and danger to someone who could be about to make a run to the hospital or helping someone in the vicinity. Why not concentrate on what you do and leave enforcement to the proper authorities. Apologies for the rant, but back to the main topic, I was clamped in London and had a ticket on display in the window. The clamper said the same thing to me, but when I tried to get a refund they said that it obviously wasn’t displayed correctly as the clamp was put in place! It’s one thing getting off a parking ticket (them trying to get money from you) as they won’t take you to court if there is a chance you’ll win, but when you are trying to get your money back……

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'll tell you who I think I am. Someone who is prepared to do something, rather than just write things on here.

Also, some of us have the intelligence to recognise what you say about circumstances. So try and follow this if you can....

Parking for residents only sign (big signs, repeated).
Marked bays.
Marked roads.
Exhibition on in local Hall.
a temporary board at the exhibition asking folk not to park.
Car arrives, they get out, read the sign, look around, and walk off.
They come back with a bag from the exhibition.
Reported to Council - no result.
Reported to the Old Bill - no result.

That leaves you with two options. One is to come on here and moan about it in safety, knowing you will never actually have to do anything. The other is to take action.

You choose your way, I'll choose mine.

[g_attrill]

xxplod said:

One of my previous threads on this subject may bring a smile to a few faces when a cowboy outfit clamped an unmarked CID vehicle.

In Hampshire a clamper by the name of Gordon Miller clamped a *marked* police vehicle. After short spell in prison for assault he was recently convicted on seven counts of blackmail and got sent down for four years, a business partner got three years.

Pics of the police car clamping in this thread - miller is the bald one:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=134698

Gareth


>> Edited by g_attrill on Sunday 13th November 15:29

[xxplod]

I recognise a couple of the Officers pictured. He really is taking the p1ss. I didn't deal with this oik, and the incident I dealt with was an unmarked car, but clamping a marked car? That is an emergency vehicle - would he clamp an ambulance?