Is this RIP correct?
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I've just followed a bus home, and seen a sign on the back that said (and I quote)..
"If you see one of these"..a picture of a spped camera.."It's because there have been 4 of these".. a picture of 4 RIP gravestones.
Is this factually correct.
P.S. to the blind dozy b&st&rd who nearly drove in to the back of me because he apparently couldn't see me parked up outside the shop, next time please stop and get out of the car, 'cos Mr and Mrs fist wants to talk to Mr and Mrs teeth.
"If you see one of these"..a picture of a spped camera.."It's because there have been 4 of these".. a picture of 4 RIP gravestones.
Is this factually correct.
P.S. to the blind dozy b&st&rd who nearly drove in to the back of me because he apparently couldn't see me parked up outside the shop, next time please stop and get out of the car, 'cos Mr and Mrs fist wants to talk to Mr and Mrs teeth.
Wot puggit said..
You can complain online here.
www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/complaints_form/
It's factually incorrect and that's a big
make sure to mention that there only has to be 4 KSI, not 4 killed in your complaint.
It is your duty
You can complain online here.
www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/complaints_form/
It's factually incorrect and that's a big
make sure to mention that there only has to be 4 KSI, not 4 killed in your complaint. It is your duty
puggit said:
No, of course it isn't correct...
I think it's 4 KSIs (killed/seriously injured) rather then 4 deaths...
Of course 15% of cameras are placed where the most cash can be gained anyway
Get that complaint in to the ASA now
Its also 4 ksi within something like 3 miles, doesn't even have to be on that road, any intersecting road will do.
BliarOut said:
Wot puggit said..
You can complain online here.
www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/complaints_form/
It's factually incorrect and that's a big
It is your duty
Been tried a number of times in respect of the scamera ads and all rejected based on the logic that the information is provided by the government and therefore can not be challenged.
bluepolarbear said:What I've challenged in the past are adverts specifying that speed cameras save lives - which we all know isn't true, but is easier to defend...
Wot puggit said..
You can complain online here.
<a href="www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/complaints_form/">www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/complaints_form/</a>
It's factually incorrect and that's a big
It is your duty
Been tried a number of times in respect of the scamera ads and all rejected based on the logic that the information is provided by the government and therefore can not be challenged.
In this case they are claiming that 4 deaths are needed for a camera - this is factually incorrect, and a lot easier to disprove
puggit said:
In this case they are claiming that 4 deaths are needed for a camera - this is factually incorrect, and a lot easier to disprove
Possibly - but technically they are not incorrect. 4 Deaths do allow them to place a camera it is just that 4 injuries would also allow them to place a camera.
That's the beauty of spin - it is not normally lying.
flat_steve said:
why can't it be challenged?, this is after all a Democracy is it not?, the Government are answerable to us you know, not the other way round.
matchless
Technically. In practise it'd be like turkeys voting for Christmas.
Shirley like turkeys voting not to have Crimbo? and the government turning round stating like they turkey at Christmas and now that Prestcott is trying to bulk himself out, they want more turkey. matchless said:
why can't it be challenged
Tax evasion, no scams = no dosh = no luxury holiday for Bliar and co.
bluepolarbear said:
In this case they are claiming that 4 deaths are needed for a camera - this is factually incorrect, and a lot easier to disprove
Possibly - but technically they are not incorrect. 4 Deaths do allow them to place a camera it is just that 4 injuries would also allow them to place a camera.
That's the beauty of spin - it is not normally lying.
This is an easy one to complain, as it's factually incorrect. There should be 4 KSI, there doesn't have to be 4 deaths, which the advert says there does. The advert is therefore untruthful, something the ASA specifically deals with.
Get complaining, NOW!They will look at the comlaint. The four deaths is incorrect so they will do something about it, hopefully.
There is no point in pointing out that the four kpi's or deaths are within a 3 mile (or whatever the limit is) radius, and that the advert implies the accidents happened near to the camera. They will likely judge as they did with the misinformation of 30% of accidents are caused by speed (excessive speed as opposed to speeding, even though 30% is make believe also). They argued that the public would make the link that they were not implying just speeding, so they will also judge that the public will not assume they mean near the camera sites, even though thats what the advert implies.
The more complaints they receive, the better it is, get complaining.
There is no point in pointing out that the four kpi's or deaths are within a 3 mile (or whatever the limit is) radius, and that the advert implies the accidents happened near to the camera. They will likely judge as they did with the misinformation of 30% of accidents are caused by speed (excessive speed as opposed to speeding, even though 30% is make believe also). They argued that the public would make the link that they were not implying just speeding, so they will also judge that the public will not assume they mean near the camera sites, even though thats what the advert implies.
The more complaints they receive, the better it is, get complaining.
spin which ist really fibbles... 
The only way the bus companies can survive is to be Therefore the only way these subsidies can be justified is if the bus is covered in lies. Boycott the bus, vandalise the bus, campaign against the bus and the green scum will have had another of their tools taken away. Commit it to memmory busses kill.
If it was West Yorks SCP then it could have been the work of Philip Gwynne, one of the more notorious spin doctors in the scamera circles.
For example on their website they post emails/letters from the public and their responses, just read them, the replies are a hoot:
www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.co.uk/pressr.asp
Gareth
>> Edited by g_attrill on Friday 21st October 11:37
For example on their website they post emails/letters from the public and their responses, just read them, the replies are a hoot:
www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.co.uk/pressr.asp
scamerati said:
3. Surley if you want people to obey the speed limit you should at first make sure the limit is posted and second that you do not hide the limit that has been posted
- **It’s not about getting people to obey the speed limit, that’s the job of the police [comment: hmm, at odds with what they usually say]. Our job is to try and prevent needless death and injury on the roads. We do that by identifying the worst casualty/fatal crash “black spots” and installing cameras at them, in order to encourage motorists to watch their driver behaviour – particularly their speed. Why speed? Because the fatalities and casualties at these “black spots” have mostly been caused by drivers travelling at excess speed for the conditions. Why cameras? Because they are proven to be the most effective, high visibility deterrent to speeding behaviour [comment: thought SID's were more]. More info is attached that we hope you will find useful and relevant
Gareth
>> Edited by g_attrill on Friday 21st October 11:37
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