Prohibited traffic, or not?

Prohibited traffic, or not?

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Flat in Fifth

44,226 posts

252 months

Monday 7th November 2005
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vipers said:
but typical I assume,


[monty python mode]
Eeeh paradise that....
[/monty python mode]
In Brummagen what one is faced with consists of a bus lane which ends one car length before the junction or roundabout. Maybe two car lengths if you are really lucky.

Hence anyone trying to behave themselves is blocked from filtering left by the stream of bolshie bus drivers * and stream of ca drivers saying "this is silly" and ignoring bus lane enforcement and thus risking a fpn.

Not so bad on a roundabout as one can just arrange to go 1.25 circuits in order to turn left. Usually though someone faced with being ....

streaky said:
forced to turn on one direction only through our ignorant (innocent) selection of a particular lane

just barges left and if they are being particularly well behaved a desultory flash of left turn indicators.

* Apologies to any decent bus drivers on here but re WM travel drivers I speak as I find.

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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streaky said:
tvrgit said:
MR2Mike said:
streaky said:

PS - "shouts out" to MR2Mike for comment regarding spelling ... add to which punctuation, grammar, sentence construction and the "grocer's apostrophe"! {i]Eats shoots and leaves might have made it to the top of last year's "Best Seller's" lists, but too few people evince having taken it to heart - S




And in the context in which I used it, the apostrophe can be correct, in that the list is possessed of "best sellers".


I think I left my ped*ntic w*nker hat in a different thread, but in its absence, the list is not owned by the best seller. (or if it is, what is it a list of? Perhaps it is a list of all the things that the best seller would like for Christmas, etc). If the list is a list of best sellers, then the "best seller" bit is descriptive, not possessive. What further complicates this is that nouns used as adjectives often (stylistic choice permitted) take a hyphen. So perhaps it is a bestsellers-list - but that is awkward so best sellers list.

If it is your list of best sellers, then perhaps it would be Streaky's Best Sellers List.

vipers

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32,917 posts

229 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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MR2Mike said:
OT, but that is the first time I have ever encountered the word "outwith", is it a regional expression?


With my grasp of queens english, could be anything. Born and bred in London, 13 years in forces, lived in Aberdeen 22 years, met many varied nationalities, so picked it up somewhere, I see further down, tvr git said it is queens english, quite chuffed at that comment.

The word which has creaped into our vocabulary which I dont really recognise, is when there is a power failure, they say "Power outage",

>> Edited by vipers on Thursday 10th November 14:49

vipers

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32,917 posts

229 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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MR2Mike said:
tvrgit said:

MR2Mike said:
OT, but that is the first time I have ever encountered the word "outwith", is it a regional expression?

No, it's English. Proper English. Properly spelt too, which is more than can be said for many!


I just checked the Oxford Dictionary, and that says it's Scottish

www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/outwith?view=uk


Yep, checked mine also, it is Scottish, so must have picked it up here. What a wonderful educational site this is turning out to be.

ashes

628 posts

255 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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About traffic signs - having watched last weeks Trevor McDonut - I have noticed just how many speed limit signs are unenforceable owing to be on a yellow background.

All of the A616 past Stocksbridge to Flouch (50 and 40 limits)
M621 new 50 limit into Leeds at Stourton

just for starters

Not condoning speeding but if you do get done in one of these limits or others badly marked, fight it!

vipers

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32,917 posts

229 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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ashes said:
About traffic signs - having watched last weeks Trevor McDonut - I have noticed just how many speed limit signs are unenforceable owing to be on a yellow background.

All of the A616 past Stocksbridge to Flouch (50 and 40 limits)
M621 new 50 limit into Leeds at Stourton

just for starters

Not condoning speeding but if you do get done in one of these limits or others badly marked, fight it!


One has to wonder why so many signs are wrong, after all, if they bothered to consult the right book in the first place, whats the problem?

tvrgit

8,472 posts

253 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Don't know the road or signs you mean, but are they standard signs on a yellow "backing board" ie the yellow is outside the broder of the sign? If so then that's ok, the sign still applies, the yellow is only to draw the eye. In other words, you can "cut out" a standard sign and stick it on any backing you like.

If the sign is the wrong colour within its borders (the red trangle or circle or whatever) then the signs are wrong and arguably have no meaning.