remove points..
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If you're applying for an amended licence for any other reason than a change of name and/or address then you need to pay the standard exchange fee (send in your old licence) - I think its currently £19.
If its a paper licence you'll also need to apply for a photocard at the same time.
JJ
If its a paper licence you'll also need to apply for a photocard at the same time.
JJ
Odd forum to post this in, but I'll have a go anyway...
Once the points have expired (usually, but not always, after 3 years) they no longer count in the "totting up" procedure. They must remain physically written on your licence for a further year, though.
After this year is up, you may apply for a replacement licence (in the same manner as if you had lost your existing one) which should come beck with the time-expired points removed. Cost is the standard replacement licence charge ~£17 IIRC
Once the points have expired (usually, but not always, after 3 years) they no longer count in the "totting up" procedure. They must remain physically written on your licence for a further year, though.
After this year is up, you may apply for a replacement licence (in the same manner as if you had lost your existing one) which should come beck with the time-expired points removed. Cost is the standard replacement licence charge ~£17 IIRC
out of interest why do people bother doing this - I was considering it myself, but couldn't see the point.
- Will police officers give you more discretion at the roadside if you wave a clean licence at them?
- It is easier to hire cars/vans?
- Does having a clean licence allow you to lie to the insurance company when they say 'any convictions within 5 years'
Why's it worth £20?
- Will police officers give you more discretion at the roadside if you wave a clean licence at them?
- It is easier to hire cars/vans?
- Does having a clean licence allow you to lie to the insurance company when they say 'any convictions within 5 years'
Why's it worth £20?
garyyb said:
out of interest why do people bother doing this - I was considering it myself, but couldn't see the point.
- Will police officers give you more discretion at the roadside if you wave a clean licence at them?
- It is easier to hire cars/vans?
- Does having a clean licence allow you to lie to the insurance company when they say 'any convictions within 5 years'
Why's it worth £20?
From memory, I don't think the police are supposed to look at your previous convictions at the roadside as it might be construed to have influenced their further actions and perjudice any court proceedings.
Of course, I could be completely wrong!
Usually Mr Plod knows exactly how many points before he stops you, a quick PNC check tells him the details of the car, tax, *MOT*, insurance (** if done lately) owner, and details of their licence, ie. full/provisional & offences.
Also note, that they have recently been given the authority to confiscate cars where the driver has no insurance or driving licence. The local ones to me are delighted to do this.
It then takes £105 tow away fee, & £12/day storeage to retrieve the vehicle, but after so long (I think it's a month??) it goes to the crusher if not reclaimed!! But the owner/ driver must show ALL legal documents, and pay the charges before it's released to them.
All I can say is, Not before time!!
Also note, that they have recently been given the authority to confiscate cars where the driver has no insurance or driving licence. The local ones to me are delighted to do this.
It then takes £105 tow away fee, & £12/day storeage to retrieve the vehicle, but after so long (I think it's a month??) it goes to the crusher if not reclaimed!! But the owner/ driver must show ALL legal documents, and pay the charges before it's released to them.
All I can say is, Not before time!!
datasafe said:
From memory, I don't think the police are supposed to look at your previous convictions at the roadside as it might be construed to have influenced their further actions and perjudice any court proceedings.
Of course, I could be completely wrong!
They can't see previous points at the roadside if you don't have your licence with you, nor can they talk you into accepting FPN/surrendering your licence on the spot, if they give you the FPN + producer you can always decide to take it to court later if you want.
Any court you may attend will no doubt have a list of your 'previous' heinous crimes anyway.
gafferjim said:
Usually Mr Plod knows exactly how many points before he stops you, a quick PNC check tells him the details of the car, tax, *MOT*, insurance (** if done lately) owner, and details of their licence, ie. full/provisional & offences.
Also note, that they have recently been given the authority to confiscate cars where the driver has no insurance or driving licence. The local ones to me are delighted to do this.
It then takes £105 tow away fee, & £12/day storeage to retrieve the vehicle, but after so long (I think it's a month??) it goes to the crusher if not reclaimed!! But the owner/ driver must show ALL legal documents, and pay the charges before it's released to them.
All I can say is, Not before time!!
Is this true.Do you mean you have to have your licence and insurance docs with you when you are driving?
I think the cops will only seize your vehicle and take you down the nick if they cannot establish your identity within a reasonable period of time at the side of the road and the vehicle comes up as untaxed/uninsured etc. If you are driving your own car and can give your name, address, DOB, etc then I'd imagine you'd be ok.
ISTR Road Wars or some other prog showing a roadside stop where the driver didn't have any ID. He gave a name, address and DOB but the cops weren't happy with his story as he was being really vague about things he should have known - he didn't know when he'd passed his test and couldn't say who he was insured with either, for two.
Turned out he had given them a false name and was driving without a licence or insurance. Copper's instinct in action.
ISTR Road Wars or some other prog showing a roadside stop where the driver didn't have any ID. He gave a name, address and DOB but the cops weren't happy with his story as he was being really vague about things he should have known - he didn't know when he'd passed his test and couldn't say who he was insured with either, for two.
Turned out he had given them a false name and was driving without a licence or insurance. Copper's instinct in action.
MrsMiggins said:I saw that one. The fact that he was sleeping rough in the car and was off his head on crack might have rung alarms bells in anyone, even without the benefit of a coppers finely honed instincts.
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ISTR Road Wars or some other prog showing a roadside stop where the driver didn't have any ID. He gave a name, address and DOB but the cops weren't happy with his story as he was being really vague about things he should have known - he didn't know when he'd passed his test and couldn't say who he was insured with either, for two.
Turned out he had given them a false name and was driving without a licence or insurance. Copper's instinct in action.
My car is on the register as uninsured. It's not. It's insured comprehensively at great expense. (since April, this year, so not recently either.)
I recently had a bib call at my home at 23:00 as a follow up, to check the certificate.
Not sure towing away is appropriate unless you have a reasonable database.
I recently had a bib call at my home at 23:00 as a follow up, to check the certificate.
Not sure towing away is appropriate unless you have a reasonable database.
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