Headlight Dipping

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zumbruk

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7,848 posts

261 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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What is it with the recent and increasing trend for people not to dip their headlights until they see you dip yours, and for them to assume that if they don't actually see you dip yours, that you haven't, so not to dip theirs? Look, guys, I saw you coming ages ago and dipped my lights before you came round the corner, so stop bloody dazzling me, OK?

HC Rule 94: You MUST NOT

* use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users

And no, my headlights do not need adjusting.

pdV6

16,442 posts

262 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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That's when having separate dipped and main beam lamps is useful - you can give 'em a quick blast of all 4 to ram the point home!

zumbruk

Original Poster:

7,848 posts

261 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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4.8kW of Cibie's mounted on a roof rail, more like.


Cooperman

4,428 posts

251 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Or my twin 8" PIAA's with 100W white xenon bulbs. They get one chance!

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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zumbruk said:
What is it with the recent and increasing trend for people not to dip their headlights until they see you dip yours ...
It's a "High Noon" thing! - Streaky

Rob-C

1,488 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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I have noticed that drivers in Cumbria (specifically drivers of real, proper agricultural 4x4s) do not dip their lights for anyone or anything.

There again, the same people also do not slow down or move over to their side of the road or give way at passing places for anyone or anything. It must be a cultural thing of assuming everyone else is a tourist and therefore must be despised.

eccles

13,745 posts

223 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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on a similar note, most modern cars come with a little knob so you can adjust your headlights down a bit when carrying a load.....why is it no one uses them!

Parrot of doom

23,075 posts

235 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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That would involve reading the manual. Since most people don't even know how to store a radio station on their radio, I somehow doubt people even grasp the concept of suspension and the effect weight has on it

AJLintern

4,202 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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The front fog light problem seems to be getting worse all the time, often people with side lights and fog lights Surely they must notice people dazzling them with fog lights, so why don't they recognise this and turn theirs off

catso

14,795 posts

268 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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Rob-C said:
I have noticed that drivers in Cumbria (specifically drivers of real, proper agricultural 4x4s) do not dip their lights for anyone or anything.



Maybe that's to dazzle the Scammers........ if so it's another 'benefit' that Scamming has brought us

xiphias

5,888 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th December 2005
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AJLintern said:
The front fog light problem seems to be getting worse all the time, often people with side lights and fog lights Surely they must notice people dazzling them with fog lights, so why don't they recognise this and turn theirs off


I can't turn the fog lights on unless main beams are on full beams, not even if they're only dipped!

AJLintern

4,202 posts

264 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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xiphias said:
I can't turn the fog lights on unless main beams are on full beams, not even if they're only dipped!
Are you sure they're not driving lights? They only come on with main beam - no problem with those, as long as you remember to dip your lights!

eccles

13,745 posts

223 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Parrot of doom said:
That would involve reading the manual. Since most people don't even know how to store a radio station on their radio, I somehow doubt people even grasp the concept of suspension and the effect weight has on it


i might be being a bit pedantic, but for ages i've thought there should be some kind of test when you buy a new car, to prove you know what knob does what, and what that 'funny' light on the dash is for.
the ammount of times i heard people say things like "is that what that light is for" or "i've no idea where the switch is for it".
i'm not saying people should know details of how the engine works, but they should know what all the controls do, and what effect they have on the car.

xiphias

5,888 posts

228 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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AJLintern said:
xiphias said:
I can't turn the fog lights on unless main beams are on full beams, not even if they're only dipped!
Are you sure they're not driving lights? They only come on with main beam - no problem with those, as long as you remember to dip your lights!


A) Whats the difference?
B) Labelled as foggies in the manual.

trevorh

1,359 posts

285 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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saxmund

364 posts

236 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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[quote]on a similar note, most modern cars come with a little knob so you can adjust your headlights down a bit when carrying a load.....why is it no one uses them![/quote]

It's because the little knob has four or five numbered settings that cover various combinations of loading. You have to get the manual out to find out what they mean. If someone could think of some icons that instantly convey to the driver when you should use each setting, it would make life much easier.

eccles

13,745 posts

223 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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saxmund said:
[quote]on a similar note, most modern cars come with a little knob so you can adjust your headlights down a bit when carrying a load.....why is it no one uses them!


It's because the little knob has four or five numbered settings that cover various combinations of loading. You have to get the manual out to find out what they mean. If someone could think of some icons that instantly convey to the driver when you should use each setting, it would make life much easier.[/quote]

have people become that stupid they cant read a manual and cant remember how a control works?....so now we need fisher price to make the dash controls!

jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

260 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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eccles said:
Parrot of doom said:
That would involve reading the manual. Since most people don't even know how to store a radio station on their radio, I somehow doubt people even grasp the concept of suspension and the effect weight has on it


i might be being a bit pedantic, but for ages i've thought there should be some kind of test when you buy a new car, to prove you know what knob does what, and what that 'funny' light on the dash is for.
the ammount of times i heard people say things like "is that what that light is for" or "i've no idea where the switch is for it".
i'm not saying people should know details of how the engine works, but they should know what all the controls do, and what effect they have on the car.


The difference is its illegal to drive with fog lights on except when there's dense fog (well that's what Plod told me when he stopped me a few years ago, despite the numpty not realising they were driving lamps and not accepting my assurance as such).

JJ

Pigeon

18,535 posts

247 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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saxmund said:
eccles said:
on a similar note, most modern cars come with a little knob so you can adjust your headlights down a bit when carrying a load.....why is it no one uses them!

It's because the little knob has four or five numbered settings that cover various combinations of loading. You have to get the manual out to find out what they mean. If someone could think of some icons that instantly convey to the driver when you should use each setting, it would make life much easier.

If someone could label the switch with words that instantly convey to the driver when to use each setting it would make life much easier...
eccles said:
the ammount of times i heard people say things like "is that what that light is for" or "i've no idea where the switch is for it".

...I'm sure most of this is because manufacturers insist on labelling controls with stupid pictures that convey no meaning, as opposed to clear, unambiguous words. Especially with lights - you get lots of different switches with slightly different pictures of a light on them, which means that the most effective way of working out which lights they control is to switch them all on in turn and then walk round the car to see what's lit up. "Sidelights", "Headlights", "Front foglights", "Rear foglights" etc. would save all the confusion and hassle.

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>> Edited by Pigeon on Monday 5th December 19:08

bigdods

7,173 posts

228 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Many moons ago I had a car (cant remember which one now) which had a F and R printed on the dashboard light that came on when the fogs were turned on. Very good but I guess the letters interfered with the designer aesthetics ....