Friend had a crash today

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john57

1,849 posts

229 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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SJobson said:
Zod said:
Please don't encourage people to make bogus injuury claims. It raises premiums for all of us. The insurance company should sort this out.
Even if the victim does not intend to claim for whiplash, it is worth saying to the police that you are injured if you want them to investigate...


If you make a false statement to police intentionally.... and sign to say that what you have said is correct when it clearly isn't then you may be the one they end up investigating!

You will be wasting their time and potentially opening yourself up for grief when you don't need to. Keep it truthful.

Buffalo

5,435 posts

255 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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targarama said:
S-wot I thought reading the information provided. Vehicle already on roundabout, you join, you're at fault. Yes, the other drive might have been going v. quickly and didn't brake/swerve around her, but in the law's eyes he had the right of way. I'm sure we all take avoiding action to avoid numpties on roundabout at least once a week. This guy didn't - whether it was because didn't care or wasn't paying attention is going to be hard to prove, even then he's not guilty IMO (based on information provided).


I would have thought if it was the average size of roundabout in the UK however, that the if a car pulled out in front of another car already on the roundabout, the size of roundabout and speed from the car that is hit is usually such that there is a front quarter collision only. For there to have been no attempt to put on the brakes by the colliding driver it seems to me to be due to inattention. For him to have a full side on collision, by contrast to your suggestion may also suggests the colliding driver could well have pulled late onto the roundabout with a faster than normal closing speed (i.e. didn't slow down, wasn't looking at the junction etc) - this would give time for the other car to get further onto the roundabout such that more of the other car is on it to be hit.

Although you give way to the right at roundabouts, if a car on your left is already on it by the time you get to the giveway line at your entrance its not your right of way any more. Hard to prove, yes - but witness of the colliding drivers inattention should be the key.

gtr-gaz

5,093 posts

247 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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Buffalo said:
targarama said:
S-wot I thought reading the information provided. Vehicle already on roundabout, you join, you're at fault. Yes, the other drive might have been going v. quickly and didn't brake/swerve around her, but in the law's eyes he had the right of way. I'm sure we all take avoiding action to avoid numpties on roundabout at least once a week. This guy didn't - whether it was because didn't care or wasn't paying attention is going to be hard to prove, even then he's not guilty IMO (based on information provided).


I would have thought if it was the average size of roundabout in the UK however, that the if a car pulled out in front of another car already on the roundabout, the size of roundabout and speed from the car that is hit is usually such that there is a front quarter collision only. For there to have been no attempt to put on the brakes by the colliding driver it seems to me to be due to inattention. For him to have a full side on collision, by contrast to your suggestion may also suggests the colliding driver could well have pulled late onto the roundabout with a faster than normal closing speed (i.e. didn't slow down, wasn't looking at the junction etc) - this would give time for the other car to get further onto the roundabout such that more of the other car is on it to be hit.

Although you give way to the right at roundabouts, if a car on your left is already on it by the time you get to the giveway line at your entrance its not your right of way any more. Hard to prove, yes - but witness of the colliding drivers inattention should be the key.



Just what I was going to say.

Mini roundabouts are perhaps the worst as some drivers do not slow down if it's clear to their right!
I have, on several occasions, had to slam on the brakes at the last moment to avoid an accident like that.



>> Edited by gtr-gaz on Sunday 8th January 10:01

pwig

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11,956 posts

271 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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Ok it was the rear wheel arch that has taken the bulk of the impact apparentally!

WD*

4,045 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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hanse cronje said:
pwig said:

Is there an uninsured driver fund she can claim off?

Cheers in advance.


www.mib.org.uk/MIB/en/Default.htm

long wait mine took a year and i worked in the industry so could push it along


It took two years for them to contact me following an accident I was involved in - I was the party they claim to have been uninsured. I was insured, and have sent them a letter from my insurance company. I last contacted them in October to find out what the situation was and was told they had a 2 week backlog and would get back to me - I am still waiting.

The accident happened two and a half years ago and I am still waiting for resolution.





(clarification: I hit a crash barrier. Autolink contacted me saying that I was to provide insurace details if I wanted it to go through my insurace, else they would bill me. I waited for the bill and heard nothing further until I received a letter from the MIB, dated two years and a day from the accident. I was insured, and have provided evidence of that )