mates car crushed
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my mate just had his £25,000 car crushed by the Police or DVLA, he got it just before xmas and has it all legal Taxed insured etc, he went away to Thailand over the xmas period and came back to no car, they came and took it away for no Tax, it turns out the Tax disc has been stolen by scrotes and as he was abroad had no idea of this, he didn't know the authorities had crushed his car and just thought it had been stolen from the road outside his house, he rang the Police to report it stolen as soon as he got home and this is when he found out it had been crushed, it turns out the DVLA records had not yet updated the fact it was Taxed as it takes a while to get this fact on their system so according to their records it was not Taxed even though it was, this is crazy as its on the drip , can he get the cost back from someone for this mistake? as he is currently paying for a car he does not have anymore and he needs a car to get to his work too
Ill let you a littel secret the dont crush all of some get sold on to breakers yards in fact any what are worth selling.
he has a air tight case from what i can see as there admited it.
and id be billing for a nice hire car to i got a new car as well
rinse the
ers i say.
i tell you one if it was me and I dident get it sort then i dam well declare war on the local counicl and thre wouldent be a council car van truck lorry roadsweeper left in the town or council depo in one peice
>> Edited by OUTLAW-1 on Tuesday 10th January 04:20
he has a air tight case from what i can see as there admited it.
and id be billing for a nice hire car to i got a new car as well
rinse the
ers i say. i tell you one if it was me and I dident get it sort then i dam well declare war on the local counicl and thre wouldent be a council car van truck lorry roadsweeper left in the town or council depo in one peice
>> Edited by OUTLAW-1 on Tuesday 10th January 04:20
matchless said:
my mate just had his £25,000 car crushed by the Police or DVLA
Get me the details quick. And put me in touch with him. This is a national news story.
edited to add: psmith@safespeed.org.uk / 01862 832000 / 07799 045553
>> Edited by safespeed on Tuesday 10th January 04:47
my mate rang me last night to say his car has not after all been crushed and its safely in a compound waiting for him, he thought it had been crushed as that was what he had been told by someone when he rang the police to report it stolen, aparrently they are holding an investigation to find out who said it had been crushed, the police reassured my mate they dont just go round crushing cars without making absolutely sure its justified first by giving many chances for the owner to get it back its nice to hear, I would have reacted in the same way as my mate though and blame the press for making us all paranoid with all those horror stories you read every day
Talk about scaring the life out of him though!
Talk about scaring the life out of him though!
OK so I am synical but could there be more to this than stated.
If it a DVLA seizure on tax then vehicles of no value are crushed after 7 days, those with some value 14 days and those of value sold off by auction. Obviously anotice is sent to the owner on file. If it was recently bought and change not notified then old owner would get the notice and sdtart alarm bells ringing. I doubt a LA would be so swift in crunching of a car of that value considering there may be a claim. Current culture is to cover their backs.
For Police siezures Police (Retention and Disposal of M.vehicles) regs 2002 could apply and if no responce from notice sent to owner total disposal only after 3 months.
dvd
If it a DVLA seizure on tax then vehicles of no value are crushed after 7 days, those with some value 14 days and those of value sold off by auction. Obviously anotice is sent to the owner on file. If it was recently bought and change not notified then old owner would get the notice and sdtart alarm bells ringing. I doubt a LA would be so swift in crunching of a car of that value considering there may be a claim. Current culture is to cover their backs.
For Police siezures Police (Retention and Disposal of M.vehicles) regs 2002 could apply and if no responce from notice sent to owner total disposal only after 3 months.
dvd
Dwight VanDriver said:
For Police siezures Police (Retention and Disposal of M.vehicles) regs 2002 could apply and if no responce from notice sent to owner total disposal only after 3 months.
Yep, I was going to make that comment too - beaten to it yet again by the expert! Of one of the limited things that I know, the 3 month rule is still there and will remain there for some time - while the DVLA completely revamp the way that they process and manage data - their records could be out of date by upto 6 weeks due to the processes that can be used. 3 Months is a catch all to ensure that holiday seasons etc, dont affect things too much....
Thats the idea though.
safespeed said:
my mate just had his £25,000 car crushed by the Police or DVLA
Get me the details quick. And put me in touch with him. This is a national news story.
edited to add: psmith@safespeed.org.uk / 01862 832000 / 07799 045553
>> Edited by safespeed on Tuesday 10th January 04:47
oh dear, you're starting to to sound like a desperate tabloid journalist!......and surely safespeed is more concerned with speeding, or is it just another exscuse to have a go at the BiB?
OUTLAW-1 said:
Ill let you a littel secret the dont crush all of some get sold on to breakers yards in fact any what are worth selling.
That's what I posted on his thread on PePiPoo here - the crushing is a scare story by the DVLA, only cars worth less than the potential fines are crushed, the rest sold and (I suspect) the money put in an account to be returned the the owner (less costs) should they show up.
A while back the DVLA crushed a Rolls Royce as a publicity stunt - in reality they would never destroy anything of value.
Gareth
eccles said:
my mate just had his £25,000 car crushed by the Police or DVLA
Get me the details quick. And put me in touch with him. This is a national news story.
edited to add: psmith@safespeed.org.uk / 01862 832000 / 07799 045553
>> Edited by safespeed on Tuesday 10th January 04:47
oh dear, you're starting to to sound like a desperate tabloid journalist!......and surely safespeed is more concerned with speeding, or is it just another exscuse to have a go at the BiB?
eh? first of all Safespeed isn't concerned with "speeding" - it's concerned with the enforcement of traffic laws, but don't let that get in the way of an inflammatory statement. Who is sounding like a tabloid journalist now?
In any case who said anything about the BiB - it's the DVLA at fault here.
Based on the original story it does deserve a wider audience than the SP&L forum on PH, but given the revisions, perhaps not.
eccles said:
my mate just had his £25,000 car crushed by the Police or DVLA
Get me the details quick. And put me in touch with him. This is a national news story.
edited to add: psmith@safespeed.org.uk / 01862 832000 / 07799 045553
>> Edited by safespeed on Tuesday 10th January 04:47
oh dear, you're starting to to sound like a desperate tabloid journalist!......and surely safespeed is more concerned with speeding, or is it just another exscuse to have a go at the BiB?
The DVLA is nothing to do with the BiB. Secondly, I would hope that if you came back from holiday to find your pride and joy had been confiscated, and possibly crushed, people who *could* help would help you.
Paul has the connections and clout to be able to help this guy, secondly it would alert the general public to the situation so that the same did not happen to them, or it would provoke an outcry from the public so that it would not happen to anyone else.
Luckily, it seems that the car owner had jumped the gun a bit. But, I do hope that if you are ever dealt a complete injustice in the future which costs you a huge amount of money, people may want to offer their help to you too, whether you want to take it is your own prerogative.
>> Edited by justinp1 on Tuesday 10th January 15:34
eccles said:
my mate just had his £25,000 car crushed by the Police or DVLA
Get me the details quick. And put me in touch with him. This is a national news story.
oh dear, you're starting to to sound like a desperate tabloid journalist!......and surely safespeed is more concerned with speeding, or is it just another exscuse to have a go at the BiB?
It just so happens that I now have the connections and the clout to get something done. I was offering to help a fellow PHer. It'd be FAR faster to get something done via the press route than the County Court.safespeed said:
my mate just had his £25,000 car crushed by the Police or DVLA
Get me the details quick. And put me in touch with him. This is a national news story.
oh dear, you're starting to to sound like a desperate tabloid journalist!......and surely safespeed is more concerned with speeding, or is it just another exscuse to have a go at the BiB?
but surely before you go running to the press it would be best to get all the facts?
eccles said:
my mate just had his £25,000 car crushed by the Police or DVLA
Get me the details quick. And put me in touch with him. This is a national news story.
oh dear, you're starting to to sound like a desperate tabloid journalist!......and surely safespeed is more concerned with speeding, or is it just another exscuse to have a go at the BiB?
but surely before you go running to the press it would be best to get all the facts?
I *think* that is why he said this first of all...
safespeed said:
Get me the details quick. And put me in touch with him. This is a national news story.
edited to add: psmith@safespeed.org.uk / 01862 832000 / 07799 045553
I am pretty sure that would show he had every intention of getting the facts straight from the 'horses mouth', hence the above post and a lack of a wooly half-arsed chinese whispered news article on the front page...
The guy does a very good job on behalf of a lot of people. Give him *some* credit!
>> Edited by justinp1 on Tuesday 10th January 19:11
eccles said:
my mate just had his £25,000 car crushed by the Police or DVLA
Get me the details quick. And put me in touch with him. This is a national news story.
oh dear, you're starting to to sound like a desperate tabloid journalist!......and surely safespeed is more concerned with speeding, or is it just another exscuse to have a go at the BiB?
but surely before you go running to the press it would be best to get all the facts?
but surely the objective is to humiliate the authorities as frequently as possible so they can be safely removed at the next election. I have a little sympathy with crushing the odd 50p car that gets left on the street with flat tyres. The penalty for crushing a decent motor should be hanging. Nicking cars is nicking cars, it does not matter if the thief is a civil servant or a policeman if they take the vehicle and its taxed, insured and legal then they should be charged with theft and banged up.
off_again said:
For Police siezures Police (Retention and Disposal of M.vehicles) regs 2002 could apply and if no responce from notice sent to owner total disposal only after 3 months.
Yep, I was going to make that comment too - beaten to it yet again by the expert! Of one of the limited things that I know, the 3 month rule is still there and will remain there for some time - while the DVLA completely revamp the way that they process and manage data - their records could be out of date by upto 6 weeks due to the processes that can be used. 3 Months is a catch all to ensure that holiday seasons etc, dont affect things too much....
Thats the idea though.
A story for you chaps........
when I ran a recovery service (stolen/RTCs/obstruction) on the police approved scheme, we would bin the obvious crap after 7 days of notifying the owner (not easy sometimes). If we got something decent in with probably a story like the first post, they would quite rightly bottle it and pay the storage themselves rather than allow us to dispose of it.
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