Pond Life - I pay for these people out of my Tax?
Discussion
Maybe should be on Plod page but like Ranting to a wider audience.
The Scenario:-
Driving along with my just repaired race car (car covered) on back of a 4 wheel car trailer, towing in V70 T5 (about as good as it gets for towing) on the M4.
Making good (surprisingly good Friday evening progress) – this thing can tow at any speed you ask it too. Usually we tow at 70 (when most of the real M-way traffic is doing your standard 90+ in the middle or outside lanes).
Dark. Come up behind a Cop car bumbling along at 60 (why!) in the sideline, so at least a 1/4 of a mile out I get out of the inside lane and get in middle and go past Plod with the rest of the crawling traffic. No problem you would think (did think oooh what is the real highway code for towing surely it cannot be 50 as nothing I have seen on the m-way in many a year goes that slow and you would expect plod to pull over and question why!?)
So proceed at this stupid speed in front of plod with cruise set to 60 in left and middle lane. FOR 10 MILES – occasionally going up to 65 for a quick squirt past a truck that is down to 50 or less on a big uphill section then straight back to 60 on the cruise.
Plod then puts on the lights. So I pull over wait for him to say hi. Say do you no what I have pulled you over for through window – I say er NO can you please tell me, No not here (well why the did you pull me over here then when you have been following me for 10 miles) – I will tell you in the service station ¼ mile a head!!!! Off we go and pull into large area of open space in service petrol station.
Wait for plod to ask me the why have I been pulled again – no please tell me. Get out of the car finally.
1) you are not allowed to tow in the outside lane (how the he knew I was in the outside lane god only knows!)
2) you are not allowed to do more than 50!
Not allowed to do more than 50 – you are having laugh arn’rt you – you just followed me for 10 mile at 60! You could have pulled me straight over for being in the
Outside lane – BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO. You have to wait until some services!
So then get into checking license and all that crap – all fine of cause and lovely and clean! Then say well what I’m going to do is caution you over the 2 points. Ooh fair enough (almost sounded like nice guy at this point) asks what car is on the trailer – small talk – (why the hell I should tell him is beyond me – see later).
So then starts out with - right then so it will either be an appeal to the judge for the outside lane thing or a fixed 3 points and a fine.
WHAT? I say – hang on let me just clarify this (politely as possible still at this point) – you just said you were cautioning me which I presumed was a warning (had said do not drive this car or tow very often as it was). Oh no I have to do you for something (I tailed you and had to stop and get out of my car and talk bollox before getting back in therefore I have to have earn the government some cash for doing that.
So that confirmed – that there was no way out I did start saying he was being totally unreasonable, etc, etc, clean license hardly a big deal, when all of M4 traffic is way over 70 and you bloody know it etc, etc, all pointless and mr. brain dead has engaged his hilter chip and is writing ticket – while (I’m MR. Huge other cop has gotten out) and is standing next to me with his arms x’d as presumably they are not used to people saying they are talking rubbish – as if some talk dick standing there is going to pacify me – Monkey!
Anyway sign for it, blar blar.
This little Hilters must just cruise along at 60 al day just waiting for utterly minor 60 quid and more 3 pointers just to fill there coffers when they should be out catching real criminals, rapists, paedophiles, murderers an the asbo scrum that infect us now.
Day totally bolloxed, I set off to prove a point if only to myself (was hoping the 2 muppet boys were following) put cruise control on at 49nph for next 10 miles and then proceeded to have every man and dog flash me as I was blocking the middle lane (ha I can legally drive done to 30 apparently! – any one who does that is the one that should be done – Christ). All artic pissing past me at 10 – 15mph more (so what the copper was saying to me that all artics are limited to 53mph was utter bollox – I said this to him when he brought it up! – Muppet)
Day spoilt by petty minded cretins. And we all know (even though they would not be driving a big off t5 with a race car on the back) that any women WOULD have gotten a warning!!!!!!!!!!
Coppers – any small amount of respect I had for them – Right out the window – ok for them to have a bad day! I recon the M-way cops just join up so they can legally drive damned fast!
The Scenario:-
Driving along with my just repaired race car (car covered) on back of a 4 wheel car trailer, towing in V70 T5 (about as good as it gets for towing) on the M4.
Making good (surprisingly good Friday evening progress) – this thing can tow at any speed you ask it too. Usually we tow at 70 (when most of the real M-way traffic is doing your standard 90+ in the middle or outside lanes).
Dark. Come up behind a Cop car bumbling along at 60 (why!) in the sideline, so at least a 1/4 of a mile out I get out of the inside lane and get in middle and go past Plod with the rest of the crawling traffic. No problem you would think (did think oooh what is the real highway code for towing surely it cannot be 50 as nothing I have seen on the m-way in many a year goes that slow and you would expect plod to pull over and question why!?)
So proceed at this stupid speed in front of plod with cruise set to 60 in left and middle lane. FOR 10 MILES – occasionally going up to 65 for a quick squirt past a truck that is down to 50 or less on a big uphill section then straight back to 60 on the cruise.
Plod then puts on the lights. So I pull over wait for him to say hi. Say do you no what I have pulled you over for through window – I say er NO can you please tell me, No not here (well why the did you pull me over here then when you have been following me for 10 miles) – I will tell you in the service station ¼ mile a head!!!! Off we go and pull into large area of open space in service petrol station.
Wait for plod to ask me the why have I been pulled again – no please tell me. Get out of the car finally.
1) you are not allowed to tow in the outside lane (how the he knew I was in the outside lane god only knows!)
2) you are not allowed to do more than 50!
Not allowed to do more than 50 – you are having laugh arn’rt you – you just followed me for 10 mile at 60! You could have pulled me straight over for being in the
Outside lane – BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO. You have to wait until some services!
So then get into checking license and all that crap – all fine of cause and lovely and clean! Then say well what I’m going to do is caution you over the 2 points. Ooh fair enough (almost sounded like nice guy at this point) asks what car is on the trailer – small talk – (why the hell I should tell him is beyond me – see later).
So then starts out with - right then so it will either be an appeal to the judge for the outside lane thing or a fixed 3 points and a fine.
WHAT? I say – hang on let me just clarify this (politely as possible still at this point) – you just said you were cautioning me which I presumed was a warning (had said do not drive this car or tow very often as it was). Oh no I have to do you for something (I tailed you and had to stop and get out of my car and talk bollox before getting back in therefore I have to have earn the government some cash for doing that.
So that confirmed – that there was no way out I did start saying he was being totally unreasonable, etc, etc, clean license hardly a big deal, when all of M4 traffic is way over 70 and you bloody know it etc, etc, all pointless and mr. brain dead has engaged his hilter chip and is writing ticket – while (I’m MR. Huge other cop has gotten out) and is standing next to me with his arms x’d as presumably they are not used to people saying they are talking rubbish – as if some talk dick standing there is going to pacify me – Monkey!
Anyway sign for it, blar blar.
This little Hilters must just cruise along at 60 al day just waiting for utterly minor 60 quid and more 3 pointers just to fill there coffers when they should be out catching real criminals, rapists, paedophiles, murderers an the asbo scrum that infect us now.
Day totally bolloxed, I set off to prove a point if only to myself (was hoping the 2 muppet boys were following) put cruise control on at 49nph for next 10 miles and then proceeded to have every man and dog flash me as I was blocking the middle lane (ha I can legally drive done to 30 apparently! – any one who does that is the one that should be done – Christ). All artic pissing past me at 10 – 15mph more (so what the copper was saying to me that all artics are limited to 53mph was utter bollox – I said this to him when he brought it up! – Muppet)
Day spoilt by petty minded cretins. And we all know (even though they would not be driving a big off t5 with a race car on the back) that any women WOULD have gotten a warning!!!!!!!!!!
Coppers – any small amount of respect I had for them – Right out the window – ok for them to have a bad day! I recon the M-way cops just join up so they can legally drive damned fast!
Speed limit on a motorway or dual carriageway for a car towing a trailer is 60 mph see here.
Outside lane rule is here:
Outside lane rule is here:
Highway code said:
239: The right-hand lane of a motorway with three or more lanes MUST NOT be used (except in prescribed circumstances) if you are driving
any vehicle drawing a trailer
a goods vehicle with a maximum laden weight over 7.5 tonnes
a passenger vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver.
Laws MT(E&W)R reg 12 & MT(S)R reg 11
jellison said:
Maybe should be on Plod page but like Ranting to a wider audience.
Wait for plod to ask me the why have I been pulled again – no please tell me. Get out of the car finally.
1) you are not allowed to tow in the outside lane (how the he knew I was in the outside lane god only knows!)
2) you are not allowed to do more than 50!
Not allowed to do more than 50 – you are having laugh arn’rt you – you just followed me for 10 mile at 60! You could have pulled me straight over for being in the
Outside lane – BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO. You have to wait until some services!
The maximum permissable speed for towing on a mtoroway is 60!
its 50 on non dual carriageways.
>> Edited by All Terrain on Friday 20th January 14:41
pdV6 said:This is what the low life said.
Motorway towing limit it 60, not 50. Did you actually use the outside lane and if so did he actually catch you at it?
Well all I could do is presume that some how he had been looking along way back out of car - rear facing camera - would have to be bloody good as in to middle at 60 or less at least 1/4 mile b4 I got to the Plod Life.
jellison said:
So proceed at this stupid speed in front of plod with cruise set to 60 in left and middle lane.
jellison said plod said:
1) you are not allowed to tow in the outside lane (how the he knew I was in the outside lane god only knows!)
So this one appears to be bollox...
jellison also said plod said:
2) you are not allowed to do more than 50!
And this is also bollox, it used to be 50 but it's been 60 for ages now.
jellison said:
You could have pulled me straight over for being in the Outside lane
He could? I thought you said you weren't... now I'm confused...
jellison said:
Lots of stuff
You don't say whether you were actually in the outside lane (or was it a 2 lane motorway section?). If you were towing at 70 and went into the outside lane, then you just need to accept you've been caught. Yes, it was unlucky to be pulled over and the policeman sounds like he needs some education on how to "win friends and influence people" as well as on the speed limit for towing on the motorway.
If you weren't doing what you've been ticketted for, then write to the Chief Constable/Police Complaints people about the situation. Then consider the press...
superlightr said:
Ive never been good with text messages..... -
can somone decipher amd enlighten me if he was towing on a motorway ie 3 lanes or a 2 lane section of Motorway or a Duel carraige?
dunno, and he said this was a good rant to,
i think the duel was later though superlightr or would have been if the other copper had not been there as well or something not sure really i got lost in his diatribe.
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