Why do people think a dual carriageway nsl is 60mph??
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There is a bit of dual carriageway on my way into Nottingham that has the nsl sign (white with black line through) and so many people seem to think its 60mph.
They have slapped SPECS on here now so people seem to linger around 56mph which causes some crazy lane hopping and idiot overtake lunges by loser drivers.
Does the nsl sign confuse some people??
They have slapped SPECS on here now so people seem to linger around 56mph which causes some crazy lane hopping and idiot overtake lunges by loser drivers.
Does the nsl sign confuse some people??
J1mmyD said:
The A610? With the 30 limit on one end and the 40 on the other, you're lucky to get to 60 at rush hour.
I never really travel down there at rush hour, always midday or late at night e.g. 2am. Used to be a wonderful bit of road for a blast but its 70mph now with SPECS
I am on the bit of dual carriageway that goes from Gamston to Radcliffe on Trent, you know it??
I live in Sherwood .... but to tell the truth, I don't drive around town. I head to the A1 or M1, but when it comes to going into the city I might as well get a cab or bus - purely because of parking costs/availability.
(I do know the road you're talking about though, but rarely use it)
(I do know the road you're talking about though, but rarely use it)
funkyrobot said:
There is a bit of dual carriageway on my way into Nottingham that has the nsl sign (white with black line through) and so many people seem to think its 60mph.
They have slapped SPECS on here now so people seem to linger around 56mph which causes some crazy lane hopping and idiot overtake lunges by loser drivers.
Does the nsl sign confuse some people??
As far as the law is concerned it better if half the motorists don`t know whether the limit is 60 or 70 on dual carraigeways then they will err on the side of caution and do 59mph when they see a camera and 65 mph when they think no ones looking,the silly sods are still under the speed limit.
bmw114 said:
As far as the law is concerned it better if half the motorists don`t know whether the limit is 60 or 70 on dual carraigeways then they will err on the side of caution and do 59mph when they see a camera and 65 mph when they think no ones looking,the silly sods are still under the speed limit.
Its better that people are in no doubt what the speed limits are....then theres no arguments.
Lets hope that they dont get that question on their driving tests eh?
I used to drive into Beeston for a number of years visiting ex-college hooligans and the roads around there were an absolute hoot: indeed, I recall a certain stretch of the A52 coming into Nottm was peppered with circular signs featuring white backgrounds, a black border & stripe bisecting the sillhouette of a generic car wedge shape and a pronounced 'thumbs up' symbol, apparently designed to see how fast cars with more than 250bhp could go across a permenantly manned, police v-max timing beam.
I once tripped this at something like 140 to be told I'd won that week's competition and would I care for an impromptu burn in a local T5 for a chat about social policy over buns and a steaming mug of cappuccino, back at their base?
It was precisely this kind of sensible policing which saw this nation triumph across the globe from the mid-1300s, something socialists everywhere miss with gibbering incontinence.
The filthy dogs.
I once tripped this at something like 140 to be told I'd won that week's competition and would I care for an impromptu burn in a local T5 for a chat about social policy over buns and a steaming mug of cappuccino, back at their base?
It was precisely this kind of sensible policing which saw this nation triumph across the globe from the mid-1300s, something socialists everywhere miss with gibbering incontinence.
The filthy dogs.
derestrictor said:
It was precisely this kind of sensible policing which saw this nation triumph across the globe from the mid-1300s, something socialists everywhere miss with gibbering incontinence.
The filthy dogs.
LOL. quite right, the days one could drive from calcutta to london with out leaving british land.
this historical accuracy of this post cannot be guaranteed.
Exceedingly unexpected liquid au keyboard scenario has ensued!I'm convinced the government agenda relies on numpties dragging speed limits down below the imposed limit because of their overwhelming numbers and ignorance.
Have you noticed how the numpty majority now sit on the outside lane on most ringroads. Again, they dawdle along and you usually can't get past.
The other hidden agenda is fuel. They want us to use less and then it will last for longer and can be taxed for longer. Anybody hear about the govt white van scam. Getting van drivers to drive better etc. This is what they want us all to do.
I thing we should look in the public announcements column of the local rag and raise objections when the councils propose lower speed limits.
Boosted.
Have you noticed how the numpty majority now sit on the outside lane on most ringroads. Again, they dawdle along and you usually can't get past.
The other hidden agenda is fuel. They want us to use less and then it will last for longer and can be taxed for longer. Anybody hear about the govt white van scam. Getting van drivers to drive better etc. This is what they want us all to do.
I thing we should look in the public announcements column of the local rag and raise objections when the councils propose lower speed limits.
Boosted.
There is confusion, even amongst PistonHeaders (even amongst IAM and RoSPA PHers) over the speed limit of a dual carriageway.
If there is a permanent central reservation (whether is be Armco barrier or simply a grass divide) then NSL is 70mph.
However, if it is one of those 3-lane roads with 2 lanes going up a hill and one lane down the hill, with no central reservation and only a double white line separating the traffic travelling in opposite directions then NSL is indeed 60mph.
"Dual carriageway" does not refer to the number of lanes available to you ina given direction - you can have a 2, 3 or even 4 lane dual carriageway.
The 'dual' refers the separation of the directions of travel by a permanent central reservation.
If there is a permanent central reservation (whether is be Armco barrier or simply a grass divide) then NSL is 70mph.
However, if it is one of those 3-lane roads with 2 lanes going up a hill and one lane down the hill, with no central reservation and only a double white line separating the traffic travelling in opposite directions then NSL is indeed 60mph.
"Dual carriageway" does not refer to the number of lanes available to you ina given direction - you can have a 2, 3 or even 4 lane dual carriageway.
The 'dual' refers the separation of the directions of travel by a permanent central reservation.
ledfoot said:
I don't really care what people think the speed is on a Dual Carriageway, as at least you can overtake them.
It's the people that think a single carriage NSL is 50mph that is far more annoying, as they then drive at 45mph
If they want to go 45, who are we to tell them otherwise. Aint doing any harm, just drop a gear and go past if you want to go faster.
Well plod get confused too - a few years back I got stopped on the A41(M) - NSL dual carriageway, central reservation with barriers and a hard shoulder - doing 90MPH at 6am with no other traffic on a summer morning. Checked my rear view mirror after a few miles to find plod about 6 inches from my bumper. Whoops. So he pulls me over and Im thinking fair cop, 20mph over thats 3 points no worries. Then informed by plod that the speed limit is 60 on a dual carriageway - so now Im doing 50% over the limit . hmmm. No amount of lively debate will convince him its a 70. Of course this is back in the pre scamera days of plod discretion so I still only got the 3 points and a small fine :-)
derestrictor said:
I used to drive into Beeston for a number of years visiting ex-college hooligans and the roads around there were an absolute hoot: indeed, I recall a certain stretch of the A52 coming into Nottm
Ah yes the A52 near Beeston, that was where I got stopped for doing 40 in a 40, the Dolly Sprint driver had missed the signs and thought it was still 30.
There is always one....
Tonyrec said:
As far as the law is concerned it better if half the motorists don`t know whether the limit is 60 or 70 on dual carraigeways then they will err on the side of caution and do 59mph when they see a camera and 65 mph when they think no ones looking,the silly sods are still under the speed limit.
Its better that people are in no doubt what the speed limits are....then theres no arguments.
Lets hope that they dont get that question on their driving tests eh?
hehe, I come off a roundabout onto a country road recently and was followed by a police car. I was uncertain of the limit - figured NSL but was uncertain as there were street lights, etc, so I erred on the side of caution and did 35 - probably much to the annoyance of the plod car - but had they have pulled me for going too slow (do they do this?) I would have simply explained that I didnt know what the limit was, and while speeding is bad enough (to earn brownie points
), it is surely worse while in front of a police car! had they not have been there, I would probably have done the 60...
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