Essex police - inane idiots
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trax said:
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You still dont get it, do you? Your opinion is not important,
It is when I have got the book of tickets in my hand 
trax said:
and to evreyone in this country, it is not thankfully different. You seem to forget why you are a policemen, and that is to serve and protect the public, the public being all of us here. What these two morons did, was NOT policing. It was petty mindness, vindictive and not even worthy of being called school ground childish behavour.
You seem to forget that most camera vans are crewed by civilians who are not police officers, often working alone, some of whom are women. They should not have to undergo abuse of any nature just because they are doing a job that some think unworthy.
If you received constant abuse from people because they did not like your occupation, you would complain about it. You might even stop doing it. You would probably complain to someone who could do something to ease the problem.
Like so many people on this site. You do not look out of the box! You only look at what is glaringly obvious and have fallen into the trap of being sucked along with the tide!
trax said:
What is even worst, is that none of their superiors have disciplined them for abusing their power, for purely personal aims.
I am a supervisor or as you call it a superior. I would not discipline any member of my staff for doing their job properly and fairly.
trax said:
How you cannot get with the program, and seem to be blindly defending these children, still beggers belief. We now live in a free country, not Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany. I still say, you couldnt make it up, not at all.
You do not like the ethos of camera vans. Then drive within the rules and you will not be affected. If anyone shows open abusive behaviour to someone who is in a position to do something about it, then they are indeed a fool.
trax said:
Even worst, there are real policemen out there that would do the same, against all the opinion of their employers, US. Being part of the pratnerships has seriously damaged the police, this idiotic policeing will kill it. What has happened to the quality assessement of police recruits?
The quality of police assessment is a different issue completely. What so infuriates you is a basic need to be allowed to divert from decent behaviour from reasonable people because of an emotive issue about opinions where vehicles and driving are sadly misplaced.
Strange that you so attack me. You do not even know who I am. For your information, last week I caught a stranger rapist after he burgled a 70 yr old lady and raped her in her home through good old fashioned police work. I also attended a job where my team and others caught 2 for kidnapping, recovered a large amount of class A drugs and ammunition for an UZI machine pistol plus the clip that was full when one of the suspects escaped having stabbed a police dog in the eye. The dog is now retired having had its eye removed by a vet.
I fully support my staff and when they come under unwarranted unjustified abuse or attack, I fully support the use of any method that gets the message across that behaviour of that sort is unacceptable.
The subject of this post has done a tremdous job in publicising that a parting from basic decent behaviour in the street will not be tolerated.
There was absolutely no need for him to do what he did and he is now paying the consequences in just the same way as many weekend morons do on a Saturday and Sunday morning.
Stick the bird up to me or my officers and you will be dealt with in the appropriate manner. The rest is up to you what course you take from then.
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>> Edited by mg6b on Saturday 4th February 17:08
Big Fat F'er said:
Is this just yet another case of everyone being soft, but talking hard.
In 'the good old days' we used to bait 'the pigs'. Sometimes with the finger, sometimes much worse. Sometimes we got caught. We didn't moan about it, or complain we were being picked on, or how it affected our freedom of speech (grow up for ficks sake). We accepted it. We did something wrong (the finger was seen as wrong even back then) and they came knocking on the door, or ran after you as you legged it up the road.
Before that at school when we did something wrong, we got the cane. We didn't run home to mummy and daddy or the Social Services, we accepted it as part of our decisions to do what we did. Softies stuck to the rules, others broke them but accepted the consequencies.
This big brave 41 year old gives a finger (ooh thats tough) then starts crying when he gets done. All his mates on here crowd around him, saying 'leave him alone, he hasn't done anything, blah blah blah". He wants to grow up, take it on the chin. Surely there are more important things going on than this cry baby tosser.
Once again, if ya can't do the time......
>> Edited by Big Fat F'er on Saturday 4th February 14:16
Ah, the sensible voice of reason has arrived
mg6b said:
Is this just yet another case of everyone being soft, but talking hard.
In 'the good old days' we used to bait 'the pigs'. Sometimes with the finger, sometimes much worse. Sometimes we got caught. We didn't moan about it, or complain we were being picked on, or how it affected our freedom of speech (grow up for ficks sake). We accepted it. We did something wrong (the finger was seen as wrong even back then) and they came knocking on the door, or ran after you as you legged it up the road.
Before that at school when we did something wrong, we got the cane. We didn't run home to mummy and daddy or the Social Services, we accepted it as part of our decisions to do what we did. Softies stuck to the rules, others broke them but accepted the consequencies.
This big brave 41 year old gives a finger (ooh thats tough) then starts crying when he gets done. All his mates on here crowd around him, saying 'leave him alone, he hasn't done anything, blah blah blah". He wants to grow up, take it on the chin. Surely there are more important things going on than this cry baby tosser.
Once again, if ya can't do the time......
>> Edited by Big Fat F'er on Saturday 4th February 14:16
Ah, the sensible voice of reason has arrived
The sensible voice of reason, who calls himself A Narchist? Nice one, mg6b.
rpa.janwell said:
....and have experiences which far surpass that offered in the singularly tame arena depicted by mg6b.
Really! You assume too much.
My durisdiction is not that of traffic or roads policing at the moment!
You have absolutely no idea what I do, what I have done and where or even for how long.
rpa.janwell said:
I object manifestly to the personal statement from mg6b, re "It doesn't involve having to have anything involving ego testosterone or 'red' either".
I can only assume that this refers to the fact that I have an extremely powerful sports car (it's orange, not red).
So you telling me to get a life is OK then?
>> Edited by mg6b on Saturday 4th February 17:17
mg6b said:
I'm on a mission
All right, then. This incident is a revelation. I was unaware of the implications of this law, and you have opened my eyes to the remedy available to me in the event that I am offended by the behaviour of other people.
You assert that such behaviour is unacceptable. You endorse the rigid enforcement of this law.
Every time I visit your patch, I'm going to make an official complaint about everything that offends me.....and, boy, there are lots of those. I don't know where you work yet, but I reckon I will. A place where an old lady was raped the other day, a place where UZI's are in use, a place where a police dog was mutilated the other day......narrows it down a bit, doesn't it?
Of course I'm not going to do that, but how long do you think the police would survive if we all took the same pathetically idiotic approach to such insignificant events? I said earlier I don't give a flying toss if somebody points a finger at me, and I find your sensitivity incomprehensible. Hard nuts policing the nation? I've seen harder doormice.
Wake up, and stop acting like a bully boy who does things because he can. Get on with something useful. Stop telling me you haven't got time to come round when somebody's tried to break into my house. Get the idea?
I don't know how far this rot has penetrated the service but, if you're typical, I can see this farce blowing up in your face, pretty sharpish.
We are a nation that's always prided itself on cocking a snoot at contemptible things, and you're not going to change that.
Your other name's not streetcop, is it?
A bit of light banter but a true story to do with S5 POA.
A friend of mine was driving his car along Essex Road N1 when he was pulled over for not wearing his seatbelt. He respects Police Officers in general and takes people on a if you're polite to me, I'll be polite with you basis. The quite young copper walks over to him and starts reading him the riot act. Apparently, he was well over the top. Anyway, my friend says to him, "Calm down son, you are going to have a f'ing heart attack if you carry on like that." The copper says, "Don't tell me to calm down and don't swear at me." My mate, who is born and bred in the area uses language like that in pretty much every sentence. He says, to the copper, "I wasn't swearing at you, its just how I speak." The copper then says, "Well if you swear at me once more I'm going to give you an on the spot ticket and fine." My mate says, "Really? I won't be arrested?" The copper replies, "No, but it will cost you £80." My mate says, "Ok then. You're a c*nt. That's the best £80 I've ever spent." The copper was completely stumped and went bright red!
My friend then waited for his ticket to be written up and went on his way.
>> Edited by purpleheadedcerb on Saturday 4th February 18:18
>> Edited by purpleheadedcerb on Saturday 4th February 18:20
A friend of mine was driving his car along Essex Road N1 when he was pulled over for not wearing his seatbelt. He respects Police Officers in general and takes people on a if you're polite to me, I'll be polite with you basis. The quite young copper walks over to him and starts reading him the riot act. Apparently, he was well over the top. Anyway, my friend says to him, "Calm down son, you are going to have a f'ing heart attack if you carry on like that." The copper says, "Don't tell me to calm down and don't swear at me." My mate, who is born and bred in the area uses language like that in pretty much every sentence. He says, to the copper, "I wasn't swearing at you, its just how I speak." The copper then says, "Well if you swear at me once more I'm going to give you an on the spot ticket and fine." My mate says, "Really? I won't be arrested?" The copper replies, "No, but it will cost you £80." My mate says, "Ok then. You're a c*nt. That's the best £80 I've ever spent." The copper was completely stumped and went bright red!
My friend then waited for his ticket to be written up and went on his way.
>> Edited by purpleheadedcerb on Saturday 4th February 18:18
>> Edited by purpleheadedcerb on Saturday 4th February 18:20
mybrainhurts said:
Bit of an old timer me! Only 4 and a bit to go before I draw the pension
You're going to leave a legacy of crap for the poor sods you leave behind.
You assume too much as well. You know nothing about me other than what I post on here. You do not know my experience, my qualifications or how I interact with my staff or the public. You do not know how many complaints I have received in my 25 years or how many letters of appreciation. You have no idea how many commendations I have either.
You are taking issue with me because you can over an internet forum on an anonymous basis. I have been here before and left because of idiots who are intent on unreasonable and unfounded allegation based purely on opinion and without experience (or very little).
When serving Bib leave like Jamesson did, there are calls to "come back we love you really." Some do, many do not.
Like the advert says "Could you, would you?". In your case from the information and opinions you have posted I very much doubt you would pass the first stage interview. There again you probably would never consider giving something back to the community and making a difference
(How about that for an assumption? 
) >> Edited by mg6b on Saturday 4th February 18:55
mybrainhurts said:
From someone who does understand the pressures and dangers of the job, I wish you the best of luck in Brighton Jamesson and hope that you may continue to post. We need opposing view-points on here otherwise it would be a dull place.
I'll second that.
Really! Do you only want to hear the thoughts that you agree with?
Could it possibly be just me that irks you so?
. I'll let you into a secret. Personally I don't like electronic speed enforcement period. I defend the rights of my staff to work without intimidation whatever they do.
mybrainhurts said:
What the hell has a record of achievement got to do with the future implications of one specific blunder?
"You're going to leave a legacy of crap for the poor sods you leave behind"
Surely a record of achievement is the very thing that a legacy is made of!
mybrainhurts said:
I accept that I'm not suitable for police service. I try to recognise and admit my shortcomings.
Some people don't.....
Ouch!
mg6b said:
From someone who does understand the pressures and dangers of the job, I wish you the best of luck in Brighton Jamesson and hope that you may continue to post. We need opposing view-points on here otherwise it would be a dull place.
I'll second that.
Really! Do you only want to hear the thoughts that you agree with?
No, I like to hear from balanced people, devoid of sarcasm, working in the police service and coming here to improve relations between police and public. A vital ingredient for successful policing.
mg6b said:
Could it possibly be just me that irks you so?
If you mean your small minded attitude, yes.
mg6b said:
I'll let you into a secret. Personally I don't like electronic speed enforcement period. I defend the rights of my staff to work without intimidation whatever they do.
You have my full support. A gesture of contempt is not intimidation.
Why do you find it necessary to return here in a different guise...?
mybrainhurts said:
No, I like to hear from balanced people, devoid of sarcasm, working in the police service and coming here to improve relations between police and public. A vital ingredient for successful policing.
My opinions are based on experience and lots of it across several operational departments. I resort to type when type is aimed at me. That is when the sarcasm starts. I have been practicing it for many years and am now quite good
I have balanced views and support the rights of those who are not represented properly on here such as the condemned officers who issued the £80 fine to the numbskull in this thread. They do not have the right of reply and take a slating just because they did something that someone else disagrees with.
If any of my colleagues are wrong in procedure, practice or in attitude, I will be the first to let you know.
If you could ask any of my staff, they would tell you that too.
mybrainhurts said:
Could it possibly be just me that irks you so?
If you mean your small minded attitude, yes.
My attitude is not small minded. It is balanced and fair!
mybrainhurts said:
I'll let you into a secret. Personally I don't like electronic speed enforcement period. I defend the rights of my staff to work without intimidation whatever they do.
You have my full support. A gesture of contempt is not intimidation.
Thank you. It is gratefully accepted.
A gesture of contempt is intimidation if it gets to the point when 90 out of every 100 interactions are abusive. The fact that in this case a message has been sent out is enough to curtail the behaviour of all but the very rich or the very stupid.
mybrainhurts said:
Why do you find it necessary to return here in a different guise...?
Because of previous idiots!
I have met quite a few PHrs and given driving tuition to several including Petrol Ted. I think you will find they did not experince any small mindedness at all
. I left the site after several run ins with complete plonkers who became abusive. I have continued to read the site and on this thread I decided it was time to make my return for now!
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mybrainhurts said:
I am dumbfounded. Never saw you as the oversenstive type....
Whats the point when all you end up doing is
and get a slating just because you are here to be slated? I decided that I wasting my time even for those that saw some benefit in a view from the other side. I did other things that were more worthwhile than arguing with losers.
>> Edited by mg6b on Saturday 4th February 19:34
mg6b said:
I am dumbfounded. Never saw you as the oversenstive type....
Whats the point when all you end up doing is
I decided that I wasting my time even for those that saw some benefit in a view from the other side. I did other things that were more worthwhile than arguing with losers.
I didn't mean that. I was referring to the sensitivity of perceiving a gesture as hurtful.
I think I urged you to return last time, I certainly meant to. In your position, I would have ignored the abuse and carried on with the good work. You need spinach....
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