CSA and Driving Licence
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Section 16 Child Support,Pension and Social Security Act 2000, where a person against whom a levy has been made wilfully fails to pay then Court can order that person to be disqualified from driving or from holding a licence for a period not exceeding two years.
Since 2001 11 drivers taken off the road....
Sow your seeds at night and hope for a crop failure......
dvd
>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Friday 10th February 08:19
Section 16 Child Support,Pension and Social Security Act 2000, where a person against whom a levy has been made wilfully fails to pay then Court can order that person to be disqualified from driving or from holding a licence for a period not exceeding two years.
Since 2001 11 drivers taken off the road....
Sow your seeds at night and hope for a crop failure......
dvd
>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Friday 10th February 08:19
The CSA can do anything they like. They do if you are an easy target. If you appear to be in the too difficult box, they ignore you and go for the easy target.
There is a right to appeal but it is heard by the CSA who back each other to the hilt.
If they get their claws into you and you are a person with an address and a national insurance number, you are shafted!!!
There is a right to appeal but it is heard by the CSA who back each other to the hilt.
If they get their claws into you and you are a person with an address and a national insurance number, you are shafted!!!
All of which backs up the opinion that the best course of action is to go underground and only exist in a cash based world if they come after you. Hardly a desirable state of affairs. No wonder the CSA can't get money if they take the ball busting approach.
Work hard to have all your money taken from you or just jack it in and sponge off the state? Tough call
Work hard to have all your money taken from you or just jack it in and sponge off the state? Tough call
BliarOut said:
All of which backs up the opinion that the best course of action is to go underground and only exist in a cash based world if they come after you. Hardly a desirable state of affairs. No wonder the CSA can't get money if they take the ball busting approach.
Work hard to have all your money taken from you or just jack it in and sponge off the state? Tough call
What about responsibilityto your kids? When a relationship ends this doesn't.Just my 2 penn'th
esselte said:Well in my particular case I pay enough that the CSA were never involved. I want my kids turned out nicely and I don't mind paying for their upkeep. I would actually pay less if it was calculated by CSA rules but then my kids would have to go without and I don't want that to happen. As with every aspect of seperating it's always a better outcome if you can arrange things amicably amongst yourself without outside interference.
BliarOut said:
All of which backs up the opinion that the best course of action is to go underground and only exist in a cash based world if they come after you. Hardly a desirable state of affairs. No wonder the CSA can't get money if they take the ball busting approach.
Work hard to have all your money taken from you or just jack it in and sponge off the state? Tough call
What about responsibilityto your kids? When a relationship ends this doesn't.Just my 2 penn'th
If my mates eperiences are anything to go by, once the CSA or solicitors get involved things seem to have a habit of turning nasty quite quickly.
BliarOut said:
esselte said:Well in my particular case I pay enough that the CSA were never involved. I want my kids turned out nicely and I don't mind paying for their upkeep. I would actually pay less if it was calculated by CSA rules but then my kids would have to go without and I don't want that to happen. As with every aspect of seperating it's always a better outcome if you can arrange things amicably amongst yourself without outside interference.
BliarOut said:
All of which backs up the opinion that the best course of action is to go underground and only exist in a cash based world if they come after you. Hardly a desirable state of affairs. No wonder the CSA can't get money if they take the ball busting approach.
Work hard to have all your money taken from you or just jack it in and sponge off the state? Tough call
What about responsibilityto your kids? When a relationship ends this doesn't.Just my 2 penn'th
If my mates eperiences are anything to go by, once the CSA or solicitors get involved things seem to have a habit of turning nasty quite quickly.
Hi BlairOut,I wasn't getting at you personally.What I was getting at were the stories you hear where people have split up and one of them has left home but has paid nothing for the upkeep of the kids.Surely even if they disagree with the CSA assessment they can send some cash for the kids?It's these cases where the big stick is needed.
No worries. Cash, what are you like, never use cash
Always always leave a paper trail so you can show that the money has been given. I have a DD set up to pay the ex. If she wants extra money for school uniforms or shoes then I do a transfer from my account to hers. Every penny I give her is traceable.
I know a guy who used to give his ex money for the upkeep of his kids and then it went sour. His ex claimed he hadn't given her any money as it was cash and she never put it in the bank. The CSA went after him for arrears and it was awarded so he ended up paying her money he had already given her. It's alright being amicable, but it doesn't hurt to have a bit of insurance, just in case.
Always always leave a paper trail so you can show that the money has been given. I have a DD set up to pay the ex. If she wants extra money for school uniforms or shoes then I do a transfer from my account to hers. Every penny I give her is traceable.
I know a guy who used to give his ex money for the upkeep of his kids and then it went sour. His ex claimed he hadn't given her any money as it was cash and she never put it in the bank. The CSA went after him for arrears and it was awarded so he ended up paying her money he had already given her. It's alright being amicable, but it doesn't hurt to have a bit of insurance, just in case.
BliarOut said:
No worries. Cash, what are you like, never use cash
Always always leave a paper trail so you can show that the money has been given. I have a DD set up to pay the ex. If she wants extra money for school uniforms or shoes then I do a transfer from my account to hers. Every penny I give her is traceable.
I know a guy who used to give his ex money for the upkeep of his kids and then it went sour. His ex claimed he hadn't given her any money as it was cash and she never put it in the bank. The CSA went after him for arrears and it was awarded so he ended up paying her money he had already given her. It's alright being amicable, but it doesn't hurt to have a bit of insurance, just in case.
When I said cash I didn't mean cash I meant...well you know.But yes I suppose it doesn't hurt to have a record.
esselte said:
What about responsibilityto your kids? When a relationship ends this doesn't.Just my 2 penn'th
If that was a real concern of the CSA, then there would not be so much anger against them. They are really not concerned about the welfare of children. Much of the money they retrieve does not get to children but is given to ex partners who can use it how they like (weekend party fund or ciggy fund) without benefit to any children and much of it is taken up with admin costs. If the CSA retrieve £100 from an absent parent, that £100 is not all given to the parent with care. A proportion is kept back to help pay for the running of the CSA and the rest is not given to the child or put in trust for the child.
Often the relationship with the children does end when custody is awarded and the parent with care (mostly the woman) decides that the absent parent will no longer have any access or rights even though a court says otherwise!
Not that I am cynical you understand!
The CSA are just an organisation attached to the treasury to rake back as much as they can under the banner of looking after the welfare of children. They care little about second families and the hardship their decisions make on the children from a second relationship. That is not their concern!
>> Edited by mg6b on Friday 10th February 16:29
mg6b said:
Often the relationship with the children does end when custody is awarded and the parent with care (mostly the woman)
I still think the responsibility for the kids doesn't end at the breakup whatever the custody arrangements.
>> Edited by esselte on Friday 10th February 16:33
esselte said:
[quote=mg6b
Often the relationship with the children does end when custody is awarded and the parent with care (mostly the woman)
I still think the responsibility for the kids doesn't end at the breakup whatever the custody arrangements.[/quote]
You are right. The moral responsibility does matter. The fact that mothers decide that the financial responsibility is more important than the moral obligation they have to ex partners and fathers of children ends when they make the decisions they do to stop contact regardless of what courts say.
I think many more fathers would contribute financial support to children if the cash did not get diverted through the purse of the parent with care.
mg6b said:
The CSA are just an organisation attached to the treasury to rake back as much as they can
Government, Treasury, Revenue, Job creation, Nasty Vindictive officials, Loss of Driving Licence & livelihood, Think of the Children....... Are you sure we're talking about the CSA..........
catso said:
mg6b said:
The CSA are just an organisation attached to the treasury to rake back as much as they can
Government, Treasury, Revenue, Job creation, Nasty Vindictive officials, Loss of Driving Licence & livelihood, Think of the Children....... Are you sure we're talking about the CSA..........
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