Dispatches - C4 This Thursday
Discussion
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cousins will not be amused over this. I apologise to all BiB on board over this .. ist not BiB bashing ..
I bring to attention so you make point of watching the show on C4. I posted this on Paul's site for comment as well.
Lieber von und gone und Lambo und my hero on there .. Dibs.. I think I may have to hide under the little
tank again over this .. Und I am really only posting so that lieber can post their answers ..because I do know that they are like Nina (explained if you read further ) und not per the sad examples she gives. OK... we had the "Secret Policeman" who showed some rather worrying failures in recruitment. This resulted in a number of North West Forces sacking these "pathetic excuses of humanity"
But now we have Nina Hobson. A detective.
She took break after getting disillusioned - returned in uniform. She concealed camera in her crisp white shirted bosoms.
She find morale und team spirit did not exist at Leics police station. She find sexism und bizarre attitude to rape
Quote the policewoman Nina:
A senior policeman told a trainee to take a prostitute's claim of rape with a pinch of salt..
Not getting at you von.. but this seem to be at odds with post of yours.. Perhaps you (und the other BiB on board can comment without rancour und over defensiveness on this finding from the Policewoman
und she also say she hears :
"if girl wear short skirt.. she get what she deserve"
It seem she has this on camera... If so.. und she ist cop. I do not see how doctored in any way. Bear in mind .. we keep being told that the "camera never lies" - though in a highly edited footage und I can question as I do video my own kittens for my relatives.. und I do edit out the bits which show a bit too much sassiness,
I keep these for selves though . .. ist good threat to show their "sweethearts" 
There ist more ... per the her article which did appear - admit it - in "Wail"
She describe
1. how officer ignore injured man "because he wanted to wartch football back at station
2. How officer refuse 999 call because he want to finish his doughnuts
3. How police ist target driven.
She give a worrying example.
Police have targets und performance related pay ist calculated on number of arrests made. (Hardly a basis for justice if true.. )
She say this result in this "PAPERWORK" which prevent the speedy reply to the 999 call too
There are examples of
"OK to park on these double yellows as car has "POLICE" written all over it.
She say the lackadaisical approach to doing the job seriously undermine the respect we as the non uniformed public have..und reflects that in her initial training over a decade ago. the focus was on pro-active policing und crime prevention und not meeting some arrest target for Tone's shilling.
I think this will be a very interesting viewing. Make point of watching und please .. we should keep the open mind until we see this.
Am not making a BiB Bash..honestly lieber gone, mungo, Liebster Dibs und co.
Am bringing a serious programme to objective attention.. I think perhaps comment should wait until we have seen the programme if we are to be fair minded.
I suspect in reality there won't be much in it that we (BiB) aren;t already aware of, or that you (MoP) don't already suspect.
As you point out Wildy, (clever) editing can make even tedious footage interesting. The camera crews for the current three episodes of "car Wars" were out with the team for several months, and so far there have only been three hours of footage aired.
There are bigots and slackers in the Police, as indeed there are in every walk of life. Fortunately, they are in the minority, but they do exist.
If anything positive comes out of this programme, it will be that these people continue to be weeded out.
As you point out Wildy, (clever) editing can make even tedious footage interesting. The camera crews for the current three episodes of "car Wars" were out with the team for several months, and so far there have only been three hours of footage aired.
There are bigots and slackers in the Police, as indeed there are in every walk of life. Fortunately, they are in the minority, but they do exist.
If anything positive comes out of this programme, it will be that these people continue to be weeded out.
Oh right, someone films from inside a police force for God knows how long and catches a few unsavoury comments. I'm truely amazed. 
Leicestershire Police force is my local force and they are great. The problem is they are one of the less PC forces which seems to have made the them a target for the wholemeal jumper brigade. I'm sure that that is now going to change and they'll be brought into line with the Met model of policing.
Lord save us.
Leicestershire Police force is my local force and they are great. The problem is they are one of the less PC forces which seems to have made the them a target for the wholemeal jumper brigade. I'm sure that that is now going to change and they'll be brought into line with the Met model of policing.
Lord save us.
As usual - Dibs.. you show fair play.
To olf und other who find my command of English without the support stick of spell check a bit "OTT to read" - prog ist aired this Thursday und "Wail" may have Nina's piece on-line to skim through still. Was page 26/27 in Monday's press.
I used to use spell checker. It's a bit soul destroying when you have to correct too many words...
To olf und other who find my command of English without the support stick of spell check a bit "OTT to read" - prog ist aired this Thursday und "Wail" may have Nina's piece on-line to skim through still. Was page 26/27 in Monday's press.
I used to use spell checker. It's a bit soul destroying when you have to correct too many words...
From "Coppersblog" - (Well worth a trawl through the site for all the other stuff):
Sunday, April 23, 2006
DISPATCHES
The secret’s well and truly out now, with Channel 4 advertising their forthcoming hidden camera exposé which is due out on 27th April. Nobody has yet seen the programme and while I have been in touch with some of the officers concerned, everything I have to say is rumour and innuendo (what fun).
The journalist concerned is one Nina Hobson, who took a career break from Leicestershire Police to go and work on, amongst other things, the Trisha show (one suspects that many of the people she dealt with in the police subsequently provided good material for the show). A dispute arose between Nina, who had got the media bit between her teeth, and her force: something about a career break.
Anyway, Nina decided to go back to work for the police and at the same time combine her passion for the truth and, using a big pair of specs, has shown the police to be…well nobody really knows yet.
Just about everyone connected with Hobson is concerned, from LPU commanders downward, and rumours about what she has filmed are legion. They include:
-Not paying full price for kebabs
-Watching porn at the police station
-Ducking jobs and general laziness
-Playing cricket in the station car park
-Sexist attitudes
So while Nina thought she would be shitting on the force who dared deny her the opportunity to work on the Trisha show, she actually pooped on the very people who might have had to respond to her call for assistance.
We'll all know more when the programme comes out.
Sunday, April 23, 2006
DISPATCHES
The secret’s well and truly out now, with Channel 4 advertising their forthcoming hidden camera exposé which is due out on 27th April. Nobody has yet seen the programme and while I have been in touch with some of the officers concerned, everything I have to say is rumour and innuendo (what fun).
The journalist concerned is one Nina Hobson, who took a career break from Leicestershire Police to go and work on, amongst other things, the Trisha show (one suspects that many of the people she dealt with in the police subsequently provided good material for the show). A dispute arose between Nina, who had got the media bit between her teeth, and her force: something about a career break.
Anyway, Nina decided to go back to work for the police and at the same time combine her passion for the truth and, using a big pair of specs, has shown the police to be…well nobody really knows yet.
Just about everyone connected with Hobson is concerned, from LPU commanders downward, and rumours about what she has filmed are legion. They include:
-Not paying full price for kebabs
-Watching porn at the police station
-Ducking jobs and general laziness
-Playing cricket in the station car park
-Sexist attitudes
So while Nina thought she would be shitting on the force who dared deny her the opportunity to work on the Trisha show, she actually pooped on the very people who might have had to respond to her call for assistance.
We'll all know more when the programme comes out.
"A detective who returns to uniform because she's disallusioned?!"
In other words, a Rat, out with her own agenda, who does us all so much damage as to set us back years again. 99.9% of Police are good, honest, hardworking people, who regularly put themselves in harms way for the greater good. The remaining 0.1% are a pain in the arse, trust me, I've had to work with some of them over the years!
I simply don't believe ANYTHING that the British media report now. I've no interest in seeing this programme. Please folks, try and take it with a pinch of salt. As if our morale wasn't low enough!!!
Oh, and no offence taken Wildy, you're simply giving the 'heads up' on a potentially interesting programme to most people here...
HW
In other words, a Rat, out with her own agenda, who does us all so much damage as to set us back years again. 99.9% of Police are good, honest, hardworking people, who regularly put themselves in harms way for the greater good. The remaining 0.1% are a pain in the arse, trust me, I've had to work with some of them over the years!
I simply don't believe ANYTHING that the British media report now. I've no interest in seeing this programme. Please folks, try and take it with a pinch of salt. As if our morale wasn't low enough!!!
Oh, and no offence taken Wildy, you're simply giving the 'heads up' on a potentially interesting programme to most people here...
HW
Hollywood Wheels said:Ah...obviously you won't want to tell Trisha all about the abnormal night duty antics...but you can tell us, we won't breathe a word to anyone else, honest
-Not paying full price for kebabs
-Watching porn at the police station
-Ducking jobs and general laziness
-Playing cricket in the station car park
Mate, i would be here typing all night!!! It's such a shame when a Rat like this tries to muddy the Job because of her own hidden agenda, I wouldn't swap what i do for any job in the world, no matter how much shit i take at work. I might give you a few more 'stories' off-line sometime B.....
HW
HW
Hollywood Wheels said:Aye it's not exactly showing a 'duty of loyalty to the employer' is it.
Mate, i would be here typing all night!!! It's such a shame when a Rat like this tries to muddy the Job because of her own hidden agenda, I wouldn't swap what i do for any job in the world, no matter how much shit i take at work. I might give you a few more 'stories' off-line sometime B.....
HW
Why not secretly film madam snitch herself covertly, every minute of the day and see what she gets up to over the course of a year, nowhere off limits. Then again having set herself up in this way I don't think 'the job' will need to do anything much as the tabloid press will soon be doing what they do best - pulling people off their own pedestal. We'll probably be reading before too long that she has an interesting hobby involving binliners, rope, and ornages. With pics.
Sorry if this hyjacks the thread but how have the Met managed to close its doors to white men without general hysteria and rioting taking hold of the country? I haven't even seen it on the news or in any newspapers? Have I been walking around with my eyes closed?
I understand if you cannot answer, the walls have ears.
I understand if you cannot answer, the walls have ears.
yoda954 said:
Well....none of this makes any sense....untill:
WildCat said:
She concealed camera in her crisp white shirted bosoms.
gorra be worth a watch then
Ah, yes....but are they ample bosoms or pancakes with smarties on top?
If the former, count me in - if the latter, then I'm mentally switched off, so might as well go the whole hog and switch off the telly as well.
hyena said:
Sorry if this hyjacks the thread but how have the Met managed to close its doors to white men without general hysteria and rioting taking hold of the country? I haven't even seen it on the news or in any newspapers? Have I been walking around with my eyes closed?
That's the current world we live in Hyena, better to have a 'representative' Police 'service' than one which can actually do the job. There's no rioting or hysteria because the public don't seem the slightest bit bothered about what kind of Officers are on the street, they would rather watch Dispatches and sit around talking about the terrible inner-city situation, than actually wake up and smell the coffee. Believe me, crime in inner cities will spiral out of control over the next ten years, as less effective Officers are recruited and the Police service continues to be more preoccupied with how well it reports crime, rather than actually preventing that crime in the first place. I believe it's mg6b that says on here "The public get the Police force they deserve".......never a truer word spoken.....
HW
Nail.................Head...........Dibble said:
I suspect in reality there won't be much in it that we (BiB) aren;t already aware of, or that you (MoP) don't already suspect.
As you point out Wildy, (clever) editing can make even tedious footage interesting. The camera crews for the current three episodes of "car Wars" were out with the team for several months, and so far there have only been three hours of footage aired.
There are bigots and slackers in the Police, as indeed there are in every walk of life. Fortunately, they are in the minority, but they do exist.
If anything positive comes out of this programme, it will be that these people continue to be weeded out.
I suspect it's a load of old tosh. My reading of the "she asked for it" in the Observer was that it's spin to get viewers and attention.
She says "she heard it" - which isn't the same as "she has it on video". What she appears to have on video is a Sarge saying something like "take this with a pinch of salt" over the claimed rape of a prostitute, which to be honest seems a view held by an experienced cop who knows what the real world is like, not by some feminist "all men are rapists no woman lies about rape" nutjob. So what that is doing, I think, is taking one view she can substantiate and spinning it to an extreme one by "what she's heard".
I expect the "pornographic poster displayed at the Police station" is similar tosh. I can't see it happening. This is probably either a girl in a bikini (though I doubt they'd get away with publicly displaying that !) or something stuck on the back of someone's locker door.
You wonder how much of this is "led by the nose". It's not too difficult to push a conversation in the direction you want it to go, film it, then edit out the lead up.
If they do expose the targetism that drives too much of the Police 'Service', I'm all for that. But that is the responsibility of those who drive the numbers, not the poor BiB who have to do as they're told, and if the Police are allowed to get back to Policing rather than producing Labour Party propaganda, that will benefit everyone (except Blair's morons of course).
(As an aside, I spent about 2 hours visiting a school a month or so ago. If I'd had a hidden camera I'd have had enough footage to make a one hour expose out of that two hours ....)
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