Parking Ticket

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Scogue

Original Poster:

77 posts

229 months

Saturday 17th June 2006
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Can someone please help me. Lets just say I bought my 944 and clocked up a ticket but the original owner did not change the 'registered keeper' status with the DVLA until after the fine was issued. The original owner then received my ticket. Who is liable to pay? If the original owner then changes the registered keeper to me am I then liable? The issue here is that I did generate the ticket but it has gone well passed the original £50 before I found out. Any views would be appreciated? Cheers Chris

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Saturday 17th June 2006
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Now the procedure has changed I believe the previous keeper is liable until he/she informs the DVLA that the vehicle has been sold.

Scogue

Original Poster:

77 posts

229 months

Saturday 17th June 2006
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It could be that once the DVLA has my details and Westminster Council have this information they (Westminster) will begin chasing me for the fine as I am now the registered keeper? I wonder if this happens who is liable? Any ideas?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Saturday 17th June 2006
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Like I say, onus is on the previous keeper to inform them, if he didnt and you got a ticket then he pays.

I think.

Dwight Vandriver

6,583 posts

245 months

Saturday 17th June 2006
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Schedule 6 (1) Road Traffic Act 1991 (PCN's etc)
Notice served on the person who appears to them to be the owner of the vehicle when the contravention occurred (DVLA records).

Schedule 6 (2) Recepient of the Notice has grounds to reject the Notice on the fact that he ceased to be the owner before the date of the contravention and MUST declare to whom the vehicle disposed to.

LA will then, if they accept, send Notice cancelling the original Notice and start pursuing the current owner for their Lb of flesh.

dvd

rich 36

13,739 posts

267 months

Saturday 17th June 2006
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Am attemting to wriggle out of this one
using my charm and good looks



well its worth a long shot

broccers

3,236 posts

254 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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Maybe at this late time I might be out of order saying you parked illegally so you pay.

rich 36

13,739 posts

267 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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Under normal circs' I'd be inclined to your view.

But I have access to a disabled badge at the house I was caught outside.

The crux of the matter, appears to be;
the 30 Seconds it takes to jump from car- fetch badge & plonk it in windscreen.

All before, some social leper in a North korean police outfit
runs out from his hiding place,
and slaps another ticket on car.

the last time it happened, he was on a scooter apparently the whole time he wrote the ticket
I won that round!

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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You're not really going to let the previous owner pay YOUR fine, are you?

dragonlord003

30 posts

215 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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rich 36 said:
Am attemting to wriggle out of this one
using my charm and good looks



well its worth a long shot


no need to riggle out or it it aint worth shit.

That notice to owner in not worth the paper its printed on.
It does not complie to the road traffic act

the act states that you have 28 day from the date of service to pay

there must be 2 days added for first class post 5 for second class.

A landmark case will spell major problems for most local authorities operating Decriminalised Parking Enforcement.



Lukha vs Aylesbury Vale District Council
NPAS CASE

there notice of rejertion will no dought be invalid as well

post a scan of the ticked back and frount theres a good chance that aint worth the paper its writen on as well
as not many bent councile have managed to get one right yet.









Edited by dragonlord003 on Sunday 18th June 18:57

rich 36

13,739 posts

267 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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No,
sadly the original ticket has been 'lost in the sands of time'
(gutter)


dragonlord003

30 posts

215 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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rich 36 said:
No,
sadly the original ticket has been 'lost in the sands of time'
(gutter)



that have to keep a copy anyway request from them
but that notice aint worth shit trust me.

DPE is colapsing at the moment all over the country

http://neilherron.blogspot.com/2006/0
theres a link to lukha-vs-aylesbury-vale-district

no need to be gutted you dont have to pay anything the NOTICE TO OWNER YOU POSTED IS totaly invalid .

Edited by dragonlord003 on Sunday 18th June 18:19


Edited by dragonlord003 on Sunday 18th June 18:22

dragonlord003

30 posts

215 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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broccers said:
Maybe at this late time I might be out of order saying you parked illegally so you pay.


Why should he pay the ticket when it is invald and does not complie with the law ?

Edited by dragonlord003 on Sunday 18th June 18:56

broccers

3,236 posts

254 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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dragonlord003 said:
Why should he pay the ticket when it is invald and does not complie with the law ?


Sorry am I not reading this correctly - he parked illegally and got a ticket. Wether the previous owner sent on details are not don't count for much in my book. However, I do agree that only the original sum for the fine should be paid and no late payment penalty.

Scogue

Original Poster:

77 posts

229 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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The history with me is that I am owed money from the guy. Now he seems to be consting me even more. If the car is in his name when the ticket was issued surely its his problem not mine. I am ringing the RAC tomorrow. Apparantly they have a legal support line.

dragonlord003

30 posts

215 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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I was refering to rich 36 and thort you were too

in rich 36 case its is inmaterial wheather he parked ilegal or not
they have not followed the law in claiming his cash

point 1 its not a fine in rich36 case as its a DPE area
that not my words that NPAS statement to get aroung the BIll of rights

at the moment DPE ie decrimolised parking enfoucement where coucils have took over enfoucement and they are on a biger money makeing scam that the speed cam lot.

in there greed hardly any of them have manage to do it right or legaly and it is on the verge of colapse at the moment

the notice to owner that has been posted legaly is not a notice to owner because it does not conform to law as set out in the road traffic act

most of the councils that are involed in DPE have made same mistakes as well as othere and still contuinued to ilegaly colect money when they knew they were obtaining money by deception.



Edited by dragonlord003 on Sunday 18th June 22:40

dragonlord003

30 posts

215 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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Scogue said:
The history with me is that I am owed money from the guy. Now he seems to be consting me even more. If the car is in his name when the ticket was issued surely its his problem not mine. I am ringing the RAC tomorrow. Apparantly they have a legal support line.

yes it is his problem if he had failed to inform dla he sold it.

one thing is you tikect isued by a councile running in DPE arear or a traffic warden.
as it can get complicated

if its a private car park I would tell em to spine on it


if it a DPE area i wouldent worry about it as there is garanted to be grounds to get out of the ticket no mater who they sent it too
theres more holes in DPE than a dart board.

if isued by a traffic wardent then chance are there be chaseing him for it as hes legaly ablyed to inform dvla of sale

incdently who has the ticket been sent too ?

him or you if its him it aint your poblem until they send one to you.

Edited by dragonlord003 on Sunday 18th June 22:38

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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DL, have you been on here before? Your style reminds me of somebody else.

Boosted.

rich 36

13,739 posts

267 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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hmmm
there is a familliarity

preparesaninspectorcallstypereveal



HERES.......!

dragonlord003

30 posts

215 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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I dont belive I have. However to do belive in reincarnation and may well have in a past life. I was on the telephone as I was typing the last two posts and trying to do two compleatly diferent things at the same time.

Why Whos style do I remind you of and would I like him ?



Edited by dragonlord003 on Sunday 18th June 22:59