Got a NIP, previous homeowners, what to do?

Got a NIP, previous homeowners, what to do?

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maxrider

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2,481 posts

237 months

Tuesday 20th June 2006
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Just got a NIP today in the name of the previous homeowners son. Think he may be a bit of a scrote as since I moved in I've had the police round on more than one occasion asking for him.

This guy seems to have managed to register an '05 car to a previous address he lived at 14 years ago! This isn't a dodgy area, neighbours have no forwarding address for said scrote, but I'm well pi$$ed off at the state the house was sold to me in as the surveyor failed to pick up on loads of sh!t they left behind, consequently costing me bloody thousands over the years to put right.

I'm now not sure what to do about this as:-
1. I want to get this ct in as much trouble as possible
2. I'd love to know how he managed to register a new car to an old (14 f@cking years FFS) address

Opinions welcome.

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

249 months

Tuesday 20th June 2006
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Take it to your local cop-shop with a letter explaining all that.

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 20th June 2006
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I would just return it with a note saying not known at this address... Wouldn't want to be doing the scameraships work for them, would you.

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Tuesday 20th June 2006
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shuvitupya

3,218 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th June 2006
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maxrider said:

2. I'd love to know how he managed to register a new car to an old (14 f@cking years FFS) address



It's not rocket science !

You could put Windsor Castle as your address if you wanted, and call yourself Mike. E. Mouse.

maxrider

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2,481 posts

237 months

Tuesday 20th June 2006
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Boosted LS1 said:

I wouldn't even do that. Just bin it and let them get on with it.

Boosted.

admitted that'd cause 'em grief, but it'd be nice to give this guy some too.
Plus I'd be interested to see if plod turn up on the doorstep if it's ignored!

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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Boosted LS1 said:
BliarOut said:
I would just return it with a note saying not known at this address... Wouldn't want to be doing the scameraships work for them, would you.


I wouldn't even do that. Just bin it and let them get on with it.

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Not with someone else's mail...

justinp1

13,330 posts

231 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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Ignore the letter in someone elses name, its not yours so dont worry about it.

If your surveyor messed up you can sue him. He is paid to have a duty of care and has to have professional qualifications. He will also have insurance to protect him against a claim. Seriously, if you are out of pocket and you can prove that the surveyor missed it when he shouldnt have, you should have a case. Much more constructive and financially rewarding than effing about with a scrotes mail.

splatspeed

7,490 posts

252 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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if the car is registered at your address report it stolen as it is not on the drive

:-)

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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7db said:
Boosted LS1 said:
BliarOut said:
I would just return it with a note saying not known at this address... Wouldn't want to be doing the scameraships work for them, would you.


I wouldn't even do that. Just bin it and let them get on with it.

Boosted.


Not with someone else's mail...


Why not, I open all mail that comes here. I don't look to see who it's addressed to and if it's rubbish or not for me I bin it. For all I know it could be more junk mail. I suppose I could chuck it in a post box but doubt the royal mail would put a stamp on it and attempt to deliver it. If you move address it's your responsibility to tell friends and family, not mine to look after your mail.

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ron_rocket

7 posts

233 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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If you leave it won't it go to court but default. He'll get fined in abscence not pay and the court will send the bailiff's round to who?

maxrider

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2,481 posts

237 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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Just had another look at this and the date of the offence is 16/05/2006, the date of the NIP is 19/06/2006.

I thought they had to be issued within 14 days, isn't this now past it's sell by date???

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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maxrider said:
Just had another look at this and the date of the offence is 16/05/2006, the date of the NIP is 19/06/2006.

I thought they had to be issued within 14 days, isn't this now past it's sell by date???

Suggests it was a hire car that he booked out at your address. i.e it's not the first NIP in the chain.

Edited by Einion Yrth on Wednesday 21st June 11:03

Nuggs

4,640 posts

235 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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Boosted LS1 said:
Why not

'Cos tampering with the Royal Mail is a criminal office, IIRC...

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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Nuggs said:
Boosted LS1 said:
Why not

'Cos tampering with the Royal Mail is a criminal office, IIRC...


I agree but only if it's deliberate.

It's not tampering if you opened it in error and it's not tampering if you put it back in the post box imo.

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mechsympathy

52,803 posts

256 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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ron_rocket said:
If you leave it won't it go to court but default. He'll get fined in abscence not pay and the court will send the bailiff's round to who?


And your address will have a CCJ recorded against it. I'd return it to the scamera lot with a letter of explanation (possibly even recorded delivery). You really don't need grief like that.

smeggy

3,241 posts

240 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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justinp1 said:
Ignore the letter in someone elses name, its not yours so dont worry about it.

Could one get done for 'failing to supply' under the S172? (imagine the fun you could have with that one)

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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smeggy said:
justinp1 said:
Ignore the letter in someone elses name, its not yours so dont worry about it.

Could one get done for 'failing to supply' under the S172? (imagine the fun you could have with that one)
Nope, as you haven't been asked to supply as the NIP isn't for your attention and to open someone elses mail is bordering on unlawful. If you return it unopened with not known at this address written across the front it should die a death unless they can actually be arsed to investigate.

xxxxxxrich

188 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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Einion Yrth said:
Suggests it was a hire car that he booked out at your address. i.e it's not the first NIP in the chain.


And he probably hasn't changed the address on his driving licence.

smeggy

3,241 posts

240 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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BliarOut said:
Nope, as you haven't been asked to supply as the NIP isn't for your attention and to open someone elses mail is bordering on unlawful. If you return it unopened with not known at this address written across the front it should die a death unless they can actually be arsed to investigate.

Apologies, I wasn't clear enough. I meant to ask what charges could one face if they simply binned an incorrectly addressed NIP?