Traffic Officer 4x4s

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cymtriks

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4,560 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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I've recently seen a lot of these going up and down the M5 between Bristol and Gloucester. Most drivers treat them as police cars and overtake them at circa 72 while the TOs are doing 69. They have orange chevrons on the back.

What are they? Police? SCPs? road works crews?

I've seen two or three every day for a few weeks now.

Curious.

Edited to add-
I saw one of these with twinkling lights on J14 bridge yesterday. Possible mobile SCP site?

Edited by cymtriks on Friday 23 June 12:42

jvaughan

6,025 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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They are there to help with breakdowns, accidents / traffic flow.

They are not allowed to break the speed limit so must drive at 70mph.
They have been introduced onto the M3 too this week. To free up warrent card holding officers for other duties.

They donot have blue lights, just orange and red ones. They also cannot arrest you.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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They're highways agency traffic patrols. As has been mentioned, they're there to assist in the free and safe running of the motorways. So if you're broken down on the hard shoulder, you're likely to get one parked behind you with the lights flashing to be of assistance etc.

What worries me, is when our wonderful Labour Government decide that to make this service pay for itself, they're going to transfer speed enforcement duties to them as well. Don't think it would happen? What about the civilians who now man mobile scameras?

Edited by 10 Pence Short on Friday 23 June 12:56

Andrew D

968 posts

241 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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They do, however, and for some reason beyond me, tend to sit in the police observation platforms during the morning rush hour, pretending to be plod. Much to the alarm of the passing traffic who, on seeing the vehicle revealed from behind the customary bush obscuring the platform, tend to nail the brakes and cause a tailback. Which is nice.

jasandjules

69,982 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Whilst they just do what they are currently meant to, fair play to them I say. They are brave lads.

Saw one parked up on the M25 the other day changing a tyre for a lady on her own.
One further up had placed his vehicle behind a broken down car with the lights on too..

chrisgr31

13,500 posts

256 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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10 Pence Short said:
What worries me, is when our wonderful Labour Government decide that to make this service pay for itself, they're going to transfer speed enforcement duties to them as well. Don't think it would happen? What about the civilians who now man mobile scameras?



I have no doubt it will happen

deva link

26,934 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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jvaughan said:
They also cannot arrest you.

Anyone can arrest you.

jasandjules

69,982 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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deva link said:
jvaughan said:
They also cannot arrest you.

Anyone can arrest you.


Only if you have committed or they have reasonable grounds to believe you have committed an offence which is imprisonable for 5 years or more.

fid

2,428 posts

241 months

Monday 26th June 2006
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jasandjules said:
deva link said:
jvaughan said:
They also cannot arrest you.

Anyone can arrest you.


Only if you have committed or they have reasonable grounds to believe you have committed an offence which is imprisonable for 5 years or more.

In time-served terms, that doesn't leave very much...

off_again

12,371 posts

235 months

Monday 26th June 2006
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They can also issue fixed on-the-spot fines for things like speeding. If the offence is serious enough they can pass forward evidence for further investigation, but in reality they are there to keep the flow of traffic moving and make sure that there is a visible deterent for obsessive speeders.

Personally they actually seem to have an effect. They have been on the M4 for a while now and I see them mainly at the side of the motorway helping people. Ok, they are restricted to what they can do. But they do the whole positioning to protect and ensuring breakdown respons thing - which has got to be a good thing. Additionally I have seen the aiding in traffic incidents - albeit not directly but again aiding in cone deployment etc. The idea is to free the real Traffic Cops to do their bit. The RA vehicles do the general stuff while the Police concentrate on the serious stuff - obviously the RA vehicles are cheaper to run.

So for what I have seen they actually do something and maybe we should wait and see if its as crap as some seem to think they are.....

BadgerBenji

3,524 posts

219 months

Monday 26th June 2006
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The police community support officers seem to making a difference where I live, so this can also only be a step in the right direction as well. Give them some powers, not enough, but enough to keep 99% of people on the right side of the law.

esselte

14,626 posts

268 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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off_again said:
They can also issue fixed on-the-spot fines for things like speeding. .


Are you really sure about this?

havoc

30,159 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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esselte said:
off_again said:
They can also issue fixed on-the-spot fines for things like speeding. .


Are you really sure about this?

Precisely what I was about to say.

I have serious doubts about that...evidential ones for starters.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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off_again said:
They can also issue fixed on-the-spot fines for things like speeding.

No, they cannot.

smeggy

3,241 posts

240 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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CommanderJameson said:
off_again said:
They can also issue fixed on-the-spot fines for things like speeding.

No, they cannot.



Perhaps, just perhaps, he was a victim of a (non SCP affiliated) scam?