Speed may be restricted on rural roads.
Discussion
FossilFuelled said:
3 in 4 "people" find the limit too high. Who did they survey ? Badgers ?... i was insure for years with them, never crashed nor claimed and yet they sure didn't phone me !
They don't have to drive at the limit, it as it suggests, a limit not a target.
Don't slow every driver down to the lowest speed, give people the choice to drive (up to a limit) to their and their car's abilities.
If the limits are lowered, I would put money on scameras being set up. What Tosh!
The speed limit doesn't SLOW people down though, it's just a piece of metal with numberical digits painted on it.
Where the instruction is adhered to without an understanding why it's there, then you have to question that drivers ability to select a safe speed anyway. They are a risk full stop because they need the sign there to define what speed to drive at!
Great idea
Dave
Where the instruction is adhered to without an understanding why it's there, then you have to question that drivers ability to select a safe speed anyway. They are a risk full stop because they need the sign there to define what speed to drive at!
Great idea
Dave
g - ever! Stubby Pete said:
FossilFuelled said:
3 in 4 "people" find the limit too high. Who did they survey ? Badgers ?... i was insure for years with them, never crashed nor claimed and yet they sure didn't phone me !
They don't have to drive at the limit, it as it suggests, a limit not a target.
Don't slow every driver down to the lowest speed, give people the choice to drive (up to a limit) to their and their car's abilities.
If the limits are lowered, I would put money on scameras being set up. What Tosh!
Exactly, if a cretin decides that 90 degree bend is 60mph because then sign says so then THAT is the problem with road safety, a dependance on signs and not their own ability. Scored an own goal really, made drivers ignorant and speed obsessed to the point they can't drive safely!
Camera's put up, in rural locations? Power source? Easily vandalised! Middle of nowhere.
Will never EVER happen!
Dave
Mr Whippy said:
Camera's put up, in rural locations? Power source? Easily vandalised! Middle of nowhere.
Will never EVER happen!
Dave
Will never EVER happen!
Dave
However satellite tracking is getting closer to being a reality so this would be the next step, no possibility to break the law without being caught!!! you WILL obey!!!
Unless they put up thousands of cameras that being isolated WILL be vandalised, they will never be able to police this.
There is a variety of dangerous drivers on country roads, from locals who know them like the back of their hands but have no common sense and so overtake on blind bends, through idiots who drive faster than the conditions and their ability should allow to the 40mph moron brigade who casue queues and frustration. Lower speed limits will not help.
There is a variety of dangerous drivers on country roads, from locals who know them like the back of their hands but have no common sense and so overtake on blind bends, through idiots who drive faster than the conditions and their ability should allow to the 40mph moron brigade who casue queues and frustration. Lower speed limits will not help.
angrys3owner said:
Mr Whippy said:
Camera's put up, in rural locations? Power source? Easily vandalised! Middle of nowhere.
Will never EVER happen!
Dave
Will never EVER happen!
Dave
However satellite tracking is getting closer to being a reality so this would be the next step, no possibility to break the law without being caught!!! you WILL obey!!!
That's at least 15 to 20 years away.
At 65 years old I'll be gone before then, probably! In the meantime, if in doubt - flat out!
BigBob said:
We need to look at the long term view.
The government's stated intention is to move towards more Toll Motorways/Roads - where's the incentive for people to use them if they can travel almost as quickly up a good A road - Loss of revenue.
Reduce the limit on A/B/C roads, slap some cams up and make people use the new Toll Roads.
Wasn't there a case recently were no PFI could be found for a new Toll road and the M6 Toll is not making as much as forecast - they got to do something to force people off the 'Free' roads.
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The government's stated intention is to move towards more Toll Motorways/Roads - where's the incentive for people to use them if they can travel almost as quickly up a good A road - Loss of revenue.
Reduce the limit on A/B/C roads, slap some cams up and make people use the new Toll Roads.
Wasn't there a case recently were no PFI could be found for a new Toll road and the M6 Toll is not making as much as forecast - they got to do something to force people off the 'Free' roads.
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That's fine if this had come from the guvmnt, this came from an insurance company so what's in it for them? Cash, I can only believe they think lower speeds will result in fewer claims but that seems far too simple
apache said:
this came from an insurance company so what's in it for them? Cash, I can only believe they think lower speeds will result in fewer claims but that seems far too simple
Not if they've been brainwashed by the propaganda. For people who aren't interested in cars, it's very plausible as it sounds sensible, and many probably won't even question it as it's come from the government.havoc said:
apache said:
this came from an insurance company so what's in it for them? Cash, I can only believe they think lower speeds will result in fewer claims but that seems far too simple
Not if they've been brainwashed by the propaganda. For people who aren't interested in cars, it's very plausible as it sounds sensible, and many probably won't even question it as it's come from the government.With this government it would be wisest to question EVERYTHING which emanates from them!
Prof Beard said:
Can I suggest PHers boycott Direct Line and tell them why?
Already do and have told them so due to a similar press release a couple of years back but I shall be writing to them again saying why I'll never consider using their services again for any of my car or home insurance.
cooperman said:
angrys3owner said:
Mr Whippy said:
Camera's put up, in rural locations? Power source? Easily vandalised! Middle of nowhere.
Will never EVER happen!
Dave
Will never EVER happen!
Dave
However satellite tracking is getting closer to being a reality so this would be the next step, no possibility to break the law without being caught!!! you WILL obey!!!
That's at least 15 to 20 years away.
At 65 years old I'll be gone before then, probably! In the meantime, if in doubt - flat out!
Well said young man.
My feelings exactly. Best wishes all,
Dave.
catso said:
Prof Beard said:
Can I suggest PHers boycott Direct Line and tell them why?
Already do and have told them so due to a similar press release a couple of years back but I shall be writing to them again saying why I'll never consider using their services again for any of my car or home insurance.
Has ANYONE with a performance car had a decent quote from D-L?!? I never have, so I'm sure they're pitching THEIR market at the mundane-mobiles. In which case this sort of enunciation won't hurt their business at all.
havoc said:
catso said:
Prof Beard said:
Can I suggest PHers boycott Direct Line and tell them why?
Already do and have told them so due to a similar press release a couple of years back but I shall be writing to them again saying why I'll never consider using their services again for any of my car or home insurance.
Has ANYONE with a performance car had a decent quote from D-L?!? I never have, so I'm sure they're pitching THEIR market at the mundane-mobiles. In which case this sort of enunciation won't hurt their business at all.
The plebs are at it already.
Many of my rural tracks are feeling the wrath of the outraged, resident inbreds.
I've lost count of the times when, in glorious days past, corners, there purely to be rounded at a fashionable lick, Bollinger spilling all over the place, were oft met by the vexed glare of one of these indignant knuckle scrapers, as the gathering up of the resultant screech was effected.
Alas, like everything else in this bloody country, Bliar's lot seem hell bent on appeasing the snivelling masses even when they're quite happy to keep snuffling away at the turnips: the authorities tell them to be outraged, persaude them they have rights and implore them to report any errant, squirearchial exuberance.
To wit, the castration of the progress gland, the promotion of insipid mediocrity and the proscription of fun, humour and mobility.
It's a damn disgrace!
Many of my rural tracks are feeling the wrath of the outraged, resident inbreds.
I've lost count of the times when, in glorious days past, corners, there purely to be rounded at a fashionable lick, Bollinger spilling all over the place, were oft met by the vexed glare of one of these indignant knuckle scrapers, as the gathering up of the resultant screech was effected.
Alas, like everything else in this bloody country, Bliar's lot seem hell bent on appeasing the snivelling masses even when they're quite happy to keep snuffling away at the turnips: the authorities tell them to be outraged, persaude them they have rights and implore them to report any errant, squirearchial exuberance.
To wit, the castration of the progress gland, the promotion of insipid mediocrity and the proscription of fun, humour and mobility.
It's a damn disgrace!
apache said:
That's fine if this had come from the guvmnt, this came from an insurance company so what's in it for them? Cash, I can only believe they think lower speeds will result in fewer claims but that seems far too simple
I am not certain how things work in insurance/actuarial analysis, but I think that the insurers actually hope for more claims, not fewer. You see this phenomenon when it comes to natural disasters - property and casualty insurers' shares rise after a particularly nasty storm.
The reason is that, although they will obviously lose money on a highly-destructive, one-off event, such an event will often give them the opportunity to re-rate their premia across the spectrum of similar risks.
The car insurers are looking to achieve a profit margin on their total revenue over an extended period of time. With a higher level of claims, the entire industry can and will raise its rates, and expect to earn the same % margin on more revenue.
To flip it 'round to the extreme, if there were never any accidents, they wouldn't sell a lot of insurance.
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