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Driving back from a mates house about 12 last nite on the A13 and got pulled by a 5 series BMW,the BIB were real nice about it,they asked me how fast i was doing and not wanting to sound like i was trying to insult there intellignce i said about a 100,then thet said i was doing about 120,he also said at one stage he was diong 150 to catch up to me. Now i have to say the guy was what i would call an old school cop,he ask me how many points i have and i told him none (which is the truth) so he said he would only book me for 98 so i would only get 3 points and not loose my breif,the point im trying to make is if they didnt really know how fast i was doing is it worth all the hassle of going to court,by the way there were 2 of them in the car.. Thanks.
hosedoctor said:
Driving back from a mates house about 12 last nite on the A13 and got pulled by a 5 series BMW,the BIB were real nice about it,they asked me how fast i was doing and not wanting to sound like i was trying to insult there intellignce i said about a 100,then thet said i was doing about 120,he also said at one stage he was diong 150 to catch up to me. Now i have to say the guy was what i would call an old school cop,he ask me how many points i have and i told him none (which is the truth) so he said he would only book me for 98 so i would only get 3 points and not loose my breif,the point im trying to make is if they didnt really know how fast i was doing is it worth all the hassle of going to court,by the way there were 2 of them in the car.. Thanks.
I don't know what do you reckon ?
You said it yourself - you've been LUCKY, and even more so that last night they seemed like decent chaps. Without doubt, take the 3 points.
I was similarly lucky a few weeks ago; going up Blue Bell Hill (A229 > M2 if anyone knows it) and I started accelerating and didn't stop, doing about 120mph (midnight, road empty). Then I look in my rear view mirror and something didn't seem right about a black Volvo estate that 'appeared' on the inside lane. It was almost driving *TOO* well.
Anyway, as I always do, at the top I slowed where it turns into 50 and then 40, with this guy now behind me. I'm looking in my rear view mirror still wondering. I'm coming up to lights that turn red so stop and he's behind me, I'm still looking. After 15secs or so he moves to my inside (I was turning right at roundabout) and says to me (I had roof off) "excuse me, do you know this was a Police vehicle" ....urmmmm, no!? "Just be careful of your speed mate" and with that he drove off the other way!
Now, I don't know whether he didn't 'do me' because he technically couldn't, or was on his own, or I had slowed down by the time he could, or if he just realised I was very safe when doing it and slowed in the correct places....but nevertheless, respect for said copper was well and truly earnt at that point :bib:
I was similarly lucky a few weeks ago; going up Blue Bell Hill (A229 > M2 if anyone knows it) and I started accelerating and didn't stop, doing about 120mph (midnight, road empty). Then I look in my rear view mirror and something didn't seem right about a black Volvo estate that 'appeared' on the inside lane. It was almost driving *TOO* well.
Anyway, as I always do, at the top I slowed where it turns into 50 and then 40, with this guy now behind me. I'm looking in my rear view mirror still wondering. I'm coming up to lights that turn red so stop and he's behind me, I'm still looking. After 15secs or so he moves to my inside (I was turning right at roundabout) and says to me (I had roof off) "excuse me, do you know this was a Police vehicle" ....urmmmm, no!? "Just be careful of your speed mate" and with that he drove off the other way!
Now, I don't know whether he didn't 'do me' because he technically couldn't, or was on his own, or I had slowed down by the time he could, or if he just realised I was very safe when doing it and slowed in the correct places....but nevertheless, respect for said copper was well and truly earnt at that point :bib:
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Aye, I think there's a good chance you can get this offer of a fixed penalty overturned and could take a 6 month ban </sarcasm>
"I had to do Mach 3 to catch up"
Urmmm...no you didn't occifer, you just chose to, you would have caught up doing 121mph if car in front was doing 120mph...just would have taken longer.
Aye, I think there's a good chance you can get this offer of a fixed penalty overturned and could take a 6 month ban </sarcasm>
"I had to do Mach 3 to catch up"
Urmmm...no you didn't occifer, you just chose to, you would have caught up doing 121mph if car in front was doing 120mph...just would have taken longer.
hosedoctor said:
Driving back from a mates house about 12 last nite on the A13 and got pulled by a 5 series BMW,the BIB were real nice about it,they asked me how fast i was doing and not wanting to sound like i was trying to insult there intellignce i said about a 100,then thet said i was doing about 120,he also said at one stage he was diong 150 to catch up to me. Now i have to say the guy was what i would call an old school cop,he ask me how many points i have and i told him none (which is the truth) so he said he would only book me for 98 so i would only get 3 points and not loose my breif,the point im trying to make is if they didnt really know how fast i was doing is it worth all the hassle of going to court,by the way there were 2 of them in the car.. Thanks.
Next time you get stopped by a nice policeman and they ask you how fast you were driving, do yourself a favour; tell them. I think that otherwise they could book you for driving without due care and attention. Don't insult their intelligence by thinking that they did not know how fast you were driving or by pretending that you did not know that you were speeding. If you did not know how fast you were driving, well that really is both careless and stupid. You should count yourself as being very lucky.
SJobson said:
EmmaP said:
Next time you get stopped by a nice policeman and they ask you how fast you were driving, do yourself a favour; tell them.
But that would be a confession, voluntarily given, so could they not use it against you, despite not having issued a caution?I had a conversation about this with a policeman and I recall him saying that you should state what speed you were doing for the above reasons. We talked about quite a lot of different issues, so maybe I am wrong. I am sure that someone will clarify this point.
Just proves that most police officers are very reasonable and hesitate to prosecute someone who is driving quickly but safely (in their judgement). Of course, you can get some officious ones, but you can and do get some extremely stupid drivers who deserve all they get. Overall we should consider ourselves lucky to have the sort of traffic officers we do have when compared to some other countries.
Now, the cash-cameras are something else entirely, but they are almost as disliked by the ordinary-minded police officer as by the rest of us. A friend of mine who is a Met CI has an officer working for him who got 'pinged' by Callaghan's lot at 79 on the M6 and he's not best-pleased by this as you may imagine. He said that if he were not in 'The Job' he would just ignore all the correspondence and see what happened, making them come from Cumbria to S. London to arrest him if that's what they wanted to do in the interests of justice. Nice attitude, I thought.
Now, the cash-cameras are something else entirely, but they are almost as disliked by the ordinary-minded police officer as by the rest of us. A friend of mine who is a Met CI has an officer working for him who got 'pinged' by Callaghan's lot at 79 on the M6 and he's not best-pleased by this as you may imagine. He said that if he were not in 'The Job' he would just ignore all the correspondence and see what happened, making them come from Cumbria to S. London to arrest him if that's what they wanted to do in the interests of justice. Nice attitude, I thought.
SJobson said:
EmmaP said:
Next time you get stopped by a nice policeman and they ask you how fast you were driving, do yourself a favour; tell them.
But that would be a confession, voluntarily given, so could they not use it against you, despite not having issued a caution?It could, it could also be seen as part of an act of contrition & shape how they dispose of your case, you just don't know fro sure.
What you do know is they won't be stopping & prosecuting you for speeding if you aren't, so the best option is don't do it.
If you are stopped doing three figures, you've got no idea of the attitude of the officer stopping you to that offence. All you can be sure of is that if they have sufficient evidence the option to prosecute is theirs not yours & that your attitude displayed to that may or may not unfluence their decision one way or the other.
You may be lucky & guess right, you may just make it worse for yourself.
As I say though the most caertain method of avoiding it is concentrate on your driving & don't break the limit.
EmmaP said:
SJobson said:
EmmaP said:
Next time you get stopped by a nice policeman and they ask you how fast you were driving, do yourself a favour; tell them.
But that would be a confession, voluntarily given, so could they not use it against you, despite not having issued a caution?I had a conversation about this with a policeman and I recall him saying that you should state what speed you were doing for the above reasons. We talked about quite a lot of different issues, so maybe I am wrong. I am sure that someone will clarify this point.
Isn't the phrase "I decline to answer on the grounds that I might incriminate myself" (or similar) a viable option? You don't lie or try to hoodwink the BiB, but you don't just hand yourself over.
Yes but if you take that approach then they will be sure to take an equally officious approach back and 'throw the book at you'. You can't use the weight of the law one way and not expect to have it used entirely fairly the other way.
By admitting the correct speed it is being suggested that the coppers who pulled you over will be more understanding and perhaps (like the original poster) just give you 3 points rather than full on lose-your-license-go-to-course 100+mph.
By admitting the correct speed it is being suggested that the coppers who pulled you over will be more understanding and perhaps (like the original poster) just give you 3 points rather than full on lose-your-license-go-to-course 100+mph.
Thanks for all the replies chaps but i think its getting a bit nerdie now!! Just to put this right i was given a caution at the start,and did admit that i was doing over a tonn,in fact at one point it was more like 150ish,the road was empty,i wasnt pissed,and was upfront and spoke to them the same way they spoke to me,very polite both side`s,i know a lot of you are saying just take the points,which is good advise,but i just wanted to know if they had to have hard evidence or not.He even said what a good bit of driving it was,while i let the other one sat in the car and had a look 
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