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WildCat said:
Paulie once had poster called "speed kills" who claimed speed hump "put value" on his property.
Funny you mention that.
My local council have just put up signs on all the lamposts saying they are going to be installing speed bumps (cushion humps and speed tables) on our street.
They canvassed the residents back in November and 74.9% were in favour.
spnracing said:
WildCat said:
Paulie once had poster called "speed kills" who claimed speed hump "put value" on his property.
Funny you mention that.
My local council have just put up signs on all the lamposts saying they are going to be installing speed bumps (cushion humps and speed tables) on our street.
They canvassed the residents back in November and 74.9% were in favour.
Funny you mention that.
Something similar happened to the streets round my Mum's...
Every resident who expressed an opinion was against, but it still happened as part of Edinburgh's "great" Greenways scheme...
I hope David Begg gets bumped to tourist on every long haul flight the self serving hypocrite takes.
fluffnik said:
spnracing said:
WildCat said:
Paulie once had poster called "speed kills" who claimed speed hump "put value" on his property.
Funny you mention that.
My local council have just put up signs on all the lamposts saying they are going to be installing speed bumps (cushion humps and speed tables) on our street.
They canvassed the residents back in November and 74.9% were in favour.
Funny you mention that.
Something similar happened to the streets round my Mum's...
Every resident who expressed an opinion was against, but it still happened as part of Edinburgh's "great" Greenways scheme...
I hope David Begg gets bumped to tourist on every long haul flight the self serving hypocrite takes.
My sister-in-law says no one was asked about the speed humps on her road. She says they are too high.. cyclists hate them und all that seems to happen is the traffic ist noisier as these cars rattle over these humps.
Und on the one with the speed cushion.. drvers all drive in middle of road
to avoid driving over them The humps are now warped und worn ... full of dangerous potholes und the locals want them removing - per my sister-in-law.
spnracing said:
Einion Yrth said:
I'm so pleased and gratified that you, from your superior position, can spare the time to make all my decisions for me.
I'm so pleased and gratified that you, from your superior position, decide to drive at whatever speed you choose despite how many residents/pedestrians you piss off in the process.
You know nothing of my driving style, most pedestrians I come across are pleasantly surprised I think by the consideration I show them, and I do not needlessly cause a noise nuisance that might annoy residents. You, on the other hand, are smug, and somewhat hard of thinking as far as I can tell.
spnracing said:
Einion Yrth said:
I'm so pleased and gratified that you, from your superior position, can spare the time to make all my decisions for me.
I'm so pleased and gratified that you, from your superior position, decide to drive at whatever speed you choose despite how many residents/pedestrians you piss off in the process.
spinracing, Your childish pique is not particularly welcome
Einion Yrth said:
I'm so pleased and gratified that you, from your superior position, can spare the time to make all my decisions for me. Let me know when you've got the time to decide what I should consume for my lunch tomorrow won't you?
Einion Yrth said:
You, on the other hand, are smug, and somewhat hard of thinking as far as I can tell.
Its not my superior position, its the position the law dictates across the majority of the modern democratic world. Your own smug comments are also not welcome and clearly not thought through.
"I can't drive at whatever speed I choose and therefore someone has to choose my lunch for me too". Grow up.
herewego said:
What residents want is respect and consideration from all drivers in the form of calm driving at low speeds. Many drivers achieve this. Shame on the others.
Absolutely spot on.
Speed humps, speed cameras, speed traps, 20mph zones, traffic calming, and even speed limits themselves are all there because of the 'others'.
spnracing said:
herewego said:
What residents want is respect and consideration from all drivers in the form of calm driving at low speeds. Many drivers achieve this. Shame on the others.
Absolutely spot on.
Speed humps, speed cameras, speed traps, 20mph zones, traffic calming, and even speed limits themselves are all there because of the 'others'.
But humps, calming, 20 zones etc are thankfully few and far between, thus demonstrating that most residents dont want them.
We had a proposal for a 20 limit with humps just down the road from me, and it was overwhelmingly kicked out! Common sense prevailed!
I think where these calmimg schemes get the go ahead, there will always be one or two particularly irrational car hating tree huggers in the village, who are such a minority that they have to shout louder than normal sensible people, and before we know it humps are appearing. Normal people can be caught unawares by these types!
You say you are having humps installed in your area spn?
deeps said:
I think where these calmimg schemes get the go ahead, there will always be one or two particularly irrational car hating tree huggers in the village, who are such a minority that they have to shout louder than normal sensible people, and before we know it humps are appearing. Normal people can be caught unawares by these types!
You say you are having humps installed in your area spn?
Ho Ho. If I'm counted as an irrational car hating tree hugger then god help you if you come across a member of Brake.
In our case the council canvassed the whole area, I'll dig the results out and post them. It might make interesting reading for someone who thinks that speed humps appear because a "minority" shout the loudest.
spnracing said:
herewego said:
What residents want is respect and consideration from all drivers in the form of calm driving at low speeds. Many drivers achieve this. Shame on the others.
Absolutely spot on.
Speed humps, speed cameras, speed traps, 20mph zones, traffic calming, and even speed limits themselves are all there because of the 'others'.
Wrrrrrongggg!
Speed humps are there because some councillor had some cash to use up before next fiscal budget allocation. Workforce here queried the cycle lane paint job fiasco in Ambleside before they would start work as "they could not belieeeeeeve it!
Same with some speed humps. Sister-in-law said people who wanted them on road where she live.. move out three month later. None of the "old time/long term" residents were even consulted. None want them. They are hoping they will not be replaced when the crumble to road level soon.
Speed cams - make lot of dosh. They placed at where they make cash. Historically - sub-marinated one has not placed his scams anywhere "new". Per the locals it was "always a speed trap there thou knowest thou knows !"
But when the locals got "wise" - he set up a double scammy further down the road... much to the amusement of the locals who simply sent text messages like a tribal drumbeat to forewarn of hubble, bubble toil und trubble from the Speedfinder General 20 mph zones.. when they painted up the silly cycle lanes in Ambleside .. they made this zone 20 mph. This was silly on A591 when the main street full of tourists ist 30 mph und more dangerous really.
On the other hand few have issue woith 20 mph in the other hamlets und villages.. but then you cannot drive at more than that anyways due to the way it laid out.
WildCat said:
Wrrrrrongggg!
Speed humps are there because some councillor had some cash to use up before next fiscal budget allocation.
As I said I will dig out the council's correspondence and post it here.
I can't speak for Ambleside but in Greater London the council in question are simply responding to the demands of the residents. Even then they conducted a poll before continuing, the verdict was overwhelming.
Maybe things happen differently in Ambleside but down here its just democracy in action.
spnracing said:
WildCat said:
Wrrrrrongggg!
Speed humps are there because some councillor had some cash to use up before next fiscal budget allocation.
As I said I will dig out the council's correspondence and post it here.
I can't speak for Ambleside but in Greater London the council in question are simply responding to the demands of the residents. Even then they conducted a poll before continuing, the verdict was overwhelming.
Maybe things happen differently in Ambleside but down here its just democracy in action.
spnracing said:
WildCat said:
Wrrrrrongggg!
Speed humps are there because some councillor had some cash to use up before next fiscal budget allocation.
As I said I will dig out the council's correspondence and post it here.
I can't speak for Ambleside but in Greater London the council in question are simply responding to the demands of the residents. Even then they conducted a poll before continuing, the verdict was overwhelming.
Maybe things happen differently in Ambleside but down here its just democracy in action.
Fair enough Liebchen ..
But here .. we are stubborn Northerners who do not roll over. Must be the effect of black puds, tripe und onions.. cloth caps und clogs.
(I add that I never liked black pudding or Blutwurst
.. draw line at eating a cow's stomach with onion dressings .. und whilst a tasteful hat suit me.. I prefer Scholl sandals or walking sandals to "clogs" ) Am cultured Swiss after all .. I may not always have correct command of your lingo.. but so far the locals seem to understand what I try to say
But.. speed humps.. per sisters-in-law who live on des res roads in leafy Manchester 'burb say..
"racket from cars hitting these "fast". They accelerate in-between of run over grass verges .. or drive in centre where a speed cushion und have the "near miss". The wear und tear at edges show how cars hit these. Potholes are dangerous on most of them now too. Especially if on bicycle. "
The one we call "Jazz" who play the trombone in School Jazz Orchestra
tell us that the people who demanded the humps on road where she live move out shortly after humps appeared. 
She say people simply accelerate between .. drive at "edge without slowing" or if they do not slow.. you get an intrusive noise pollution factor. The humps are 10 year old.. potholed ,... dangerous und nasty now. They also very high.. higher than "guideline" Liebchen.. we love cars.. we advocate COAST principle which even Lancs Prats endorse..as good practice
We do not drive in wanton fashion.. but we cannot help but question a failing und unjust und arbitrary policy which seem to penalise the legal und never cop the downright dangerous
I am aware that you may think my posts about the disputedly uninsured car are at odds with my previously posted opinion as to illegal drivers. But .. we have to be 100% sure of facts before we start penalising. In that case.. driver prove legality. He get raw deal.. allegedly rough justice.
We have to have a common sense element und a flawless system .. one which does not appear fair but ist seen to be FAIR if we are to win back trust in system of enforcing any laws.
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