Home Detention Curfew

[10 Pence Short]

Maybe a little obscure...

I'm trying to find out when in an 18 month prison sentence a home detention curfew becomes possible.

I seem to be getting conflicting reports between 60 days before 50% automatic parole and 4.5 months! Quite a difference.

Does anyone know where I can find a definitive answer?

[mr_annie_vxr]

10 Pence Short said:

Maybe a little obscure...

I'm trying to find out when in an 18 month prison sentence a home detention curfew becomes possible.

I seem to be getting conflicting reports between 60 days before 50% automatic parole and 4.5 months! Quite a difference.

Does anyone know where I can find a definitive answer?

I would suggest home office website or sol firm. I would guess though depends on what sort of crime it is.

[10 Pence Short]

As you'd expect, I've spent this morning trawling websites!! The government websites are like an aladdins cave!

[mr_annie_vxr]

10 Pence Short said:

As you'd expect, I've spent this morning trawling websites!! The government websites are like an aladdins cave!

I think a criminal law firm would know for sure. I'm more at the other end of putting them there in the first place. Sorry.

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I cant find a specific eligbility but from a book i have here.

Prisoners may be permitted home detention curfews when the govenor agrees with the prisoner the conditions of the curfew.

I guess its upto the governor to decide when they become eligable and no specific time given. Curfew runs for between 14 - 60 days and is generally a curfew of 1900 - 0700 (but can be specified by the governor)

Also you have the release on license. If sentence is between 4 and 18months the requsite period is 1/4 length of detention. After 18 months it is 135 days less than 1 half of the term of detention.

HTH

[hartside hurts]

Ooops!


At least A686 will be a bit safer this summer!

[hartside hurts]

Probly wont be enough time for Mr 10 pence short to understand how vulnerable bikers are, and how they need other motorists to stick to their side of the road on approach to a blind bend, and not drive like t***ts!

[streaky]

hartside hurts said:

Ooops!

Oh, the folly of publishing your name in an online forum ... not to mention dangerous driving - Streaky

[streaky]

hartside hurts said:

Probly wont be enough time for Mr 10 pence short to understand how vulnerable bikers are, and how they need other motorists to stick to their side of the road on approach to a blind bend, and not drive like t***ts!

But may be enough time to drop several octaves in the f4rting register - Streaky

[Silent1]

The Judge said:

Judge Paul Batty QC warned him: “Please be under no illusions – the fact that I am admitting you to bail is no indication as to sentence. This was very serious dangerous driving and it had catastrophic consequences for the oncoming motorcyclist. Custody is very much at the forefront of my mind.”

Is this your first offence? if so i'll put large wads of money on you not going to prison, judges always say they have custody as a probability

[10 Pence Short]

I won't go into details about it, but will say that I lost control of my car, and a biker coming around a blind bend in the opposite direction had no choice but to collide with my car, causing him catastrophic injuries, the worst being a right arm that'll most likely never work again. Sentencing is on the 20th April, I've pleaded guilty and have no problems with people on this forum or anywhere else knowing who I am.

I was totally in the wrong that day, and I deserve to be punished for it. I can't change what happened or the results, I so much wish I could. The lives of the biker and his family will never be the same again, and I can't ever repay the debt I owe them.

Please don't ask me to enter into a conversation over the details of the case, the court process is still very much active and I don't think this forum would be a suitable place for any of those involved to have a slanging match about it.

Edited by 10 Pence Short on Monday 19th March 16:19

[R_U_LOCAL]

10 Pence Short said:

I won't go into details about it yet- sentencing is on the 20th April. I've pleaded guilty and have no problems with people on this forum or anywhere else knowing who I am.

I was very much in the wrong that day, and I deserve to be punished for it. I can't change what happened or the results, I so much wish I could.

It's a shame there aren't more drivers willing to say that. There's no point in berating you for your driving as you've obviously done that yourself, and you're sweating on a prison sentance, which really isn't a nice feeling.

I'd say it's 50/50 on you going to the clink.

Edited by R_U_LOCAL on Monday 19th March 16:20

[10 Pence Short]

Just to add, the reason I started this thread was to help me organise the next few months of my life, whilst my other half is going to have to support herself on her own, to try and make sure she has some financial security whilst I may be away.

My problems pale into insignificance when I look at how the bikers life has changed, but I have to try and do the best for those who are close to me, as I think anyone would.

[hartside hurts]

"10 pence short" was sentenced yesterday to 12 months imprisonment, and banned from driving for three years.

[Silent1]

hartside hurts said:

"10 pence short" was sentenced yesterday to 12 months imprisonment, and banned from driving for three years.

I'm guessing you're the biker?

[JimboCTR]

Not being flippant but do you get internet access on the inside? Whatever he did he has expressed his remorse intelligently and honestly IMO and has always been an amusing asset on here and on the Honda forums.

Jim

[fluffnik]

hartside hurts said:

"10 pence short" was sentenced yesterday to 12 months imprisonment, and banned from driving for three years.

Isn't it strange that people who do crimes of premeditated malice rarely recieve sentences as harsh as this one for an unpremeditated act of recklessness.

What do we achieve by gaoling 10 pence short?

Nothing.

We turn a taxpaying asset who poses no threat to the community at large and would be into a burden on the taxpayer.

Is there any joined up thinking in the "justice" system?

[R_U_LOCAL]

fluffnik said:

hartside hurts said:

"10 pence short" was sentenced yesterday to 12 months imprisonment, and banned from driving for three years.

Isn't it strange that people who do crimes of premeditated malice rarely recieve sentences as harsh as this one for an unpremeditated act of recklessness.

What do we achieve by gaoling 10 pence short?

Nothing.

We turn a taxpaying asset who poses no threat to the community at large and would be into a burden on the taxpayer.

Is there any joined up thinking in the "justice" system?

I think the motorcyclist who suffered life-changing injuries would disagree with you.

The sentance sounds about right to me.

[mr_annie_vxr]

To be fair 12 months sounds about average for this knd of thing. Nothing compared to the lifetime against the motorcyclist. As for unintentional that effect may have been but it would appear the cause was due to deliberate acts. We should concentrate on punishing bad driving not speeding. Fluffnik you don't seem to like speed cameras or the punishment of clearly bad drivng. Do you think it should be a free for all on the roads?

I'm sure ten pence short is a nice old chap but he made some choices and he and the completely innocent motorcyclist are paying for them.

[tank slapper]

R_U_LOCAL said:

I think the motorcyclist who suffered life-changing injuries would disagree with you.

The sentance sounds about right to me.

Isn't it a shame though, that we as a society have not come up with anything better than just locking people up? It serves little purpose in cases like this - the person who was convicted in this case was guilty of a crime of omission, namely not thinking properly about what he was doing rather than deliberately setting out to hurt someone. He already knows that what he did was wrong, and I expect that the worst punishment for him will be that which he gives himself.

I am not suggesting that what he did was acceptable or to be made light of, but in my opinion there is world of difference between that and acting with deliberate intent.