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[steve bowen]

Interesting read.

In this instance Prison,. no definately not. As said Prison is for locking up those that if they are not will continue to cause problems.

Accidents happen, if the biker had been 5 seconds earlier or later it would have been of no interest or detriment to anyone, would probably never have been reported.

Maybe Dan was driving like a tool, if so a ban would solve that problem.

I've been in 3 major crashes, 1st in-experience drove off the road late at night in the middle of know where after collecting my little sister from a party a month after passing my test, any in experienced driver could have done it, the radio at the time was saying don't get in your car unless you have too. 2nd I was driving too fast for conditions, I learnt my lesson with that one never driven to anywhere near the limit since (11 years). 3rd pissed I accepted a lift off a mate who stopped and offered a lift home when I was trying to flag a taxi, I didn't know he was pissed he rolled the car on the way home and basically moved out of the area in shame for what he did within weeks (no one was hurt), no police involvement, lessons were learnt.

My father spent 9 months in hospital because of a car crash, told he'd never walk again, broke both arms, a couple of ribs, pelvis & leg in 2 places, a lorry trailed on the wrong side of the road on a bend, if it had been going slower it wouldn't have, it was on a 3 lane rd going down hill he was going up hill over taking in the middle (in the overtaking lane). Lorry driver wasn't charged with anything, father got a charge of some sort basically he maintains because he upset the police present by having a go at them for not charging the lorry driver. Things are very often not clear cut.

Edited by steve bowen on Friday 3rd August 14:15

[Vesuvius 996]

Ten Pence

You're a brave man to post what you have on here.

Personally I am glad you are out, lesson learned. I only wish that more people could understand and bear in mind the fact that you're only seconds from tragedy at any point when you're driving.

I'd be interested to hear your experience of jail - we're fortunate that we've never experienced it.

I once nearly went to prison for something I didn't do, but thankfully was acquitted.

My expectation was the usual ideas - beatings, male rape, threats etc...... Was it as bad as we think it would be, or were there any things which made it bearable? Did you make any friends? Did you feel safe day to day?

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Friday 3rd August 14:45

[Fiddlemesticks]

Sorry dont want to jump in on 996's post as i'd like to hear the answer to that, but i was wondering 10pence, you obviously have changed your view on driving, but when your ban ends what are your thoughts on driving again, and what sort of car would you get - i.e have you now moved away from fast cars?

[Mad Moggie2]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Ten Pence

You're a brave man to post what you have on here.

I think so too. It takes a very special and brave person to post as he has done. He has my full respect here. Nd my wife's - but Wildy has already posted her take here

Vesuvius 996 said:

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Personally I am glad you are out, lesson learned. I only wish that more people could understand and bear in mind the fact that you're only seconds from tragedy at any point when you're driving.

I'd be interested to hear your experience of jail - we're fortunate that we've never experienced it.

True, I think we (Wildy and me and family) try with our COAST message on all petrolheaded sites. It does not always avoid accidents - but helps minimise them all the same.

I have the deepest respect for 10p Short and will hope he continues to learn and contribute to this and other web sites.

Vesuvius 996 said:

I once nearly went to prison for something I didn't do, but thankfully was acquitted.

My expectation was the usual ideas - beatings, male rape, threats etc...... Was it as bad as we think it would be, or were there any things which made it bearable? Did you make any friends? Did you feel safe day to day?

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Friday 3rd August 14:45

From what I read in the press - overcrowding would seem to be one of the worst aspects.

(Edited as I discovered on a morning browser that I messed up the quote brackets er twice )

Edited by Mad Moggie2 on Sunday 5th August 08:32

Edited by Mad Moggie2 on Sunday 5th August 08:33

[pies]

Mr_annie_vxr said:

fluffnik said:

10 Pence Short said:

For what it's worth, prison is a drug riddled hole with no deterrent whatsoever to actual criminals.

An expensive and inhuman waste of resource in cases like yours and many, many others - I'm glad you're out and hope you're not too badly scarred by the experience.

Imprisoning people who pose no ongoing risk to society is wrong.

...and stupidly expensive.

...and ineffective.

But mostly just WRONG where there is no willful intention to cause harm.

Well its worked. He won't drive dangerously again. He said so himself.

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FWIW i dont think prison changed his driving just the fact he has ruined somebody elses life,and there but for the grace of god go I

[danb8]

Here's how it works,

You have to be sepving between 3 months and 4 years. Pretty much everyone is elegible other than sex offenders, people who are going to be deported amongst other things.
When you are sentanced you have to seve half of your sentance usually, to be released without conditions, but with a HDC (tagging) you serve half of half.
For e.g. 24mths sentance, you serve 12mths, but are elegible for HDC in 6mths. Not every application for HD is granted but with how rammed jails are in todays times, and you have a suitable address to go to, you should get it.
If you dont get tag for whatever reason, you may be eligible for 18 days release, which is 18 ays off half of your sentnace, but again, its not definate.
check out the hmps web

[Silent1]

danb8 said:

Here's how it works,

You have to be sepving between 3 months and 4 years. Pretty much everyone is elegible other than sex offenders, people who are going to be deported amongst other things.
When you are sentanced you have to seve half of your sentance usually, to be released without conditions, but with a HDC (tagging) you serve half of half.
For e.g. 24mths sentance, you serve 12mths, but are elegible for HDC in 6mths. Not every application for HD is granted but with how rammed jails are in todays times, and you have a suitable address to go to, you should get it.
If you dont get tag for whatever reason, you may be eligible for 18 days release, which is 18 ays off half of your sentnace, but again, its not definate.
check out the hmps web

We know already